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Offset Superpro

Post by Bacchus » Fri Jan 03, 2020 1:36 pm

Hi All, I have seen a post or two regarding the offset superpro kit, and also the whole oem vs poly saga. There was a hint towards one of you guys knowing the individual oem Bush part numbers rather than buying a whole arm, I have searched and failed to find any more on this, does anyone actually know the numbers?

My preference is OEM, but if I do end up going superpro offset, is there anyone who can actually set the car up properly with them, I am in Essex, just south of Colchester, but I wouldn't mind doing some miles for a proper geo.

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Re: Offset Superpro

Post by mrspiller » Fri Jan 03, 2020 1:47 pm

I have the superpro , my standard ones were ruined when I cut / burned the rusted bolts out . Before superpro I had a cheaper poly set which weren’t up to the job , however I am on my second ( harder compound) set of superpro which were changed under guarantee . Knowing what I know now I would have just bought a nearly new used set of arms , there has been a recall so they are available , I know big Pete did have some . At the time I done mine the recall hadn’t started . And I’ve had to pay for 3 visits to have the car re aligned


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Re: Offset Superpro

Post by Bacchus » Fri Jan 03, 2020 1:52 pm

Recall from mazda?

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Post by mrspiller » Fri Jan 03, 2020 1:54 pm

Bacchus wrote:Recall from mazda?
Only 04 models I think
Yep from Mazda


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Re: Offset Superpro

Post by Bacchus » Fri Jan 03, 2020 3:32 pm

Ahh mine is 2009

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Re: Offset Superpro

Post by mrspiller » Fri Jan 03, 2020 3:35 pm

I’m not sure if front arms are different .
I’m sure someone more experienced-in R3 components will be along shortly to advise


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Re: Offset Superpro

Post by ChrisHolmes » Fri Jan 03, 2020 3:52 pm

If they aren't worn then my advice would be don't mess with them.
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Re: Offset Superpro

Post by Bacchus » Fri Jan 03, 2020 6:15 pm

That's the problem, they came up in the mot. Excessive deflection on front wheels. I am not generally one for blindly chucking new stuff at the car when there is no need. Seems I am on the bush train though, already needed drop links and arb bushes, now front wishbones...

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Post by mrspiller » Fri Jan 03, 2020 8:37 pm

Bacchus wrote:That's the problem, they came up in the mot. Excessive deflection on front wheels. I am not generally one for blindly chucking new stuff at the car when there is no need. Seems I am on the bush train though, already needed drop links and arb bushes, now front wishbones...
Drop big Pete a message or Boston rotary ( same guy ) on FB and ask him are they different .



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Re: Offset Superpro

Post by ChrisHolmes » Fri Jan 03, 2020 10:04 pm

Bacchus wrote:
Fri Jan 03, 2020 6:15 pm
That's the problem, they came up in the mot. Excessive deflection on front wheels. I am not generally one for blindly chucking new stuff at the car when there is no need. Seems I am on the bush train though, already needed drop links and arb bushes, now front wishbones...
Ok, I thought you may be just thinking about “upgrading” to polybushes.
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Re: Offset Superpro

Post by Bacchus » Sat Jan 04, 2020 2:08 pm

Hey Chris, for a car that will not see much track, upgrading to poly, is not really an upgrade I think.

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Re: Offset Superpro

Post by Bacchus » Mon Jan 06, 2020 12:40 pm

Hi All,

I have gone with all of your recommendations and spoken to Pete via FB, Mazda are being a PITA over this and are wanting a small fortune for these which while I think is maybe worth it, the front end set I need comes in at £496 inc. VAT, I then have to think labour costs for pressing out the lower arm bushes and then getting a geo sorted.

I am therefore leaning toward the Superpro bushes, they seem to be the best of the poly options, they also come in at £290 delivered, and I will only have to pay an additional amount of labour for the upper arm bushes.

Normally I would not go with a replace all, but my experience with the car thus far and having poked about with a pry bar etc leads me to believe that it would be better just doing the whole front end to save me having to dismantle it again and do another Geo etc in a few months time.

So my last question is that SUperpro do the caster eccentric bushes, I have seen it recommended that unless it is a track / race car that these are pointless, I assume therefore that the standard oem bushes are not adjustable in this respect?

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Post by mrspiller » Mon Jan 06, 2020 12:48 pm

Bacchus wrote:Hi All,

I have gone with all of your recommendations and spoken to Pete via FB, Mazda are being a PITA over this and are wanting a small fortune for these which while I think is maybe worth it, the front end set I need comes in at £496 inc. VAT, I then have to think labour costs for pressing out the lower arm bushes and then getting a geo sorted.

I am therefore leaning toward the Superpro bushes, they seem to be the best of the poly options, they also come in at £290 delivered, and I will only have to pay an additional amount of labour for the upper arm bushes.

Normally I would not go with a replace all, but my experience with the car thus far and having poked about with a pry bar etc leads me to believe that it would be better just doing the whole front end to save me having to dismantle it again and do another Geo etc in a few months time.

So my last question is that SUperpro do the caster eccentric bushes, I have seen it recommended that unless it is a track / race car that these are pointless, I assume therefore that the standard oem bushes are not adjustable in this respect?
The standard bush is more than adequate , adjustment is done via the bolt .
Speak to nick Beal superpro Europe , he’s a very helpful guy .


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Re: Offset Superpro

Post by Phil Bate » Mon Jan 06, 2020 1:49 pm

Have you thought about new pattern parts? A set of lower arms from rockauto.com will currently set you back 243 quid delivered inc. VAT from 'murica


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Post by Bacchus » Mon Jan 06, 2020 3:31 pm

Ahh yes Phil, wish I hadn't now tbh, could have quite happily got the PZ. Seems now I have to pay double to get anything, and have absolutely no choice about where to get it.

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Post by Bacchus » Mon Jan 06, 2020 4:35 pm

Is there a company that we get discount on Superpro stuff, I have been looking through the discount section and cannot find anywhere.
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Bacchus wrote:Is there a company that we get discount on Superpro stuff, I have been looking through the discount section and cannot find anywhere.
Have you chat with Nick , he’s always been very helpful with me


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Re: Offset Superpro

Post by Bacchus » Thu Mar 26, 2020 10:34 pm

Sorry to bump this one, bushes bought, but last question on this. I need to get the front done. The rears are standard and are apparently ok, do I need to do all of them in one hit? I am starting the job on monday...

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Re: Offset Superpro

Post by ChrisHolmes » Thu Mar 26, 2020 11:17 pm

You will need to have the alignment redone after you fit the bushes. Until you have done the whole job front or back only drive the car to whomever is setting the alignment.
Start on the drivers side front bottom arm as that is the one that gets all the heat from the exhaust and the bolts when damp get heated and rust much more than the passenger side.
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Re: Offset Superpro

Post by mrspiller » Fri Mar 27, 2020 9:52 am

Did you buy upper and lower bushes ?
Follow Chris’s advice .
I would check that all your camber castor bolts free up ok on the bottom arm before getting too excited about starting . If they are seized it’s a bitch of a job to release them
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Re: Offset Superpro

Post by Bacchus » Sun Mar 29, 2020 11:19 pm

Managed to clear the garage and get the car in there. Need to do the engine mounts first, then will get onto the bushes. Am going to make everything is freed up nicely.

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