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R3 won’t start Sorted

Post by V8 Power » Fri Jul 13, 2018 8:50 pm

The Mrs is up in Staffordshire after taking her dad to hospital.
She has gone to start the R3 to come back home and it wont start.
The starter sounds like it is spinning fast enough so not flat battery just wont fire.
Coils (C spec from MRP) magnecore leads and gen plugs all changed within last 6000 miles.
No prior starting issues at all.
I’m driving up there in morning to investigate.

Any ideas?

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Re: R3 won’t start

Post by warpc0il » Fri Jul 13, 2018 8:52 pm

Is the check engine light on?
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Re: R3 won’t start

Post by V8 Power » Fri Jul 13, 2018 9:04 pm

warpc0il wrote:
Fri Jul 13, 2018 8:52 pm
Is the check engine light on?
Just rang the Mrs and yes it is!
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Re: R3 won’t start

Post by SeeJay » Fri Jul 13, 2018 9:06 pm

Is it flashing?
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Re: R3 won’t start

Post by V8 Power » Fri Jul 13, 2018 9:07 pm

SeeJay wrote:
Fri Jul 13, 2018 9:06 pm
Is it flashing?
No just on
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Re: R3 won’t start

Post by SeeJay » Fri Jul 13, 2018 9:09 pm

I'm assuming your good lady doesn't have the means to connect to OBD and get the code :?:
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Re: R3 won’t start

Post by V8 Power » Fri Jul 13, 2018 9:10 pm

SeeJay wrote:
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I'm assuming your good lady doesn't have the means to connect to OBD and get the code :?:
No CJ but I will have in the morning.
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Re: R3 won’t start

Post by SeeJay » Fri Jul 13, 2018 9:15 pm

Sorry I can't be more helpful,Graham,but as an afterthought,did the car exhibit any unusual symptoms before it was shut down :?:
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Re: R3 won’t start

Post by V8 Power » Fri Jul 13, 2018 9:21 pm

SeeJay wrote:
Fri Jul 13, 2018 9:15 pm
Sorry I can't be more helpful,Graham,but as an afterthought,did the car exhibit any unusual symptoms before it was shut down :?:
No, nothing at all was running sweat as usual.
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Re: R3 won’t start

Post by SeeJay » Fri Jul 13, 2018 9:25 pm

Looks like it's all on that fault code then,bud.. all praise our temperamental rotary's :roll:
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Re: R3 won’t start

Post by V8 Power » Fri Jul 13, 2018 9:29 pm

SeeJay wrote:
Fri Jul 13, 2018 9:25 pm
Looks like it's all on that fault code then,bud.. all praise our temperamental rotary's :roll:
Oh well.
See what the morning brings.
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Re: R3 won’t start

Post by warpc0il » Fri Jul 13, 2018 9:38 pm

Spinning over and not starting sounds like it's going to be something like P0335/6, related to Eccentric Shaft Position Circuit/Sensor.

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Re: R3 won’t start

Post by 350matt » Fri Jul 13, 2018 11:34 pm

Or a lack of fuel perhaps?
can you hear the pump prime /run for a few seconds when you 1st key on
what happens if you do the 20 brake pedal stomp?

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Re: R3 won’t start

Post by 13Black » Fri Jul 13, 2018 11:36 pm

R3s don't have an oil pressure gauge so ESS reset can't be confirmed by a sweep. I'm not 100% if the procedure is even the same.

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Re: R3 won’t start

Post by New Duke » Fri Jul 13, 2018 11:37 pm

350matt wrote:
Fri Jul 13, 2018 11:34 pm
what happens if you do the 20 brake pedal stomp?
Does that work on the R3? I read on Facebook (unreliable, I know) that it was changed to another method for the S2.
Good thinking on the fuel pump tho.


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Post by 13Black » Fri Jul 13, 2018 11:40 pm

Quick but doesn't mean anything I say is accurate :lol:

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Re: R3 won’t start

Post by PeteH » Sat Jul 14, 2018 2:01 am

Flooded. There, I said it. :whistle:
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Re: R3 won’t start

Post by V8 Power » Sat Jul 14, 2018 5:55 am

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Flooded. There, I said it. :whistle:
You could well be right Pete.
I haven’t established the circumstances that occurred before she parked up yet. She may have moved the car from cold to get her dads car off his driveway.
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Re: R3 won’t start

Post by Eitan_:DDDu » Sat Jul 14, 2018 11:58 am

V8 Power wrote:
PeteH wrote:
Sat Jul 14, 2018 2:01 am
Flooded. There, I said it. :whistle:
You could well be right Pete.
I haven’t established the circumstances that occurred before she parked up yet. She may have moved the car from cold to get her dads car off his driveway.


My r3 flooded like a month ago. But only cuz I parked it for half a year w/o touching it. Get some1 else do few jump starts with gas pedal down the bottom and try more with pedal slightly released. It should become a smoke machine after a few tries. Eventually it will start.


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Re: R3 won’t start Sorted

Post by V8 Power » Sat Jul 14, 2018 12:23 pm

It was flooded.
Connected my battery booster for good measure even though the battery was still cranking it over quickly and did the de flood procedure. 15 seconds with full throttle and then tried starting. Had to repeat 3 times but then it came alive with accompanying smoke cloud.
Let it warm through and took for a spin. Was happy to restart from hot and later from cold.
Performance seems as normal.
So not why it flooded. Chris had driven up to her dads a journey of about 60 miles and parked up. 10mins later she moved the R3 so she could get her dads car out.
The R3 then stayed parked up from Wednesday evening until it failed to start on Friday evening.
Never had any issues before and all seems well now.
The strange world of rotaries!
No codes by the way.
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Re: R3 won’t start Sorted

Post by kopite72 » Sat Jul 14, 2018 12:24 pm

Why did you get an engine light If she was only flooded?
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Re: R3 won’t start Sorted

Post by V8 Power » Sat Jul 14, 2018 12:29 pm

kopite72 wrote:
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Why did you get an engine light If she was only flooded?
I didn’t Ian.
The engine light was on when trying to start but went out once started.
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Re: R3 won’t start Sorted

Post by kopite72 » Sat Jul 14, 2018 12:46 pm

Oh sorry Graham, glad it's sorted bud ;)
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Re: R3 won’t start Sorted

Post by V8 Power » Sat Jul 14, 2018 12:54 pm

kopite72 wrote:
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Oh sorry Graham, glad it's sorted bud ;)
It was me, when I spoke to Chris and asked her if the EML light was on she said yes which I reported on here, but it was on as it had not started.

Just a bit worried in case it happens again as not sure why it did it :scratch:
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Re: R3 won’t start

Post by nightfire10 » Sat Jul 14, 2018 1:13 pm

PeteH wrote:Flooded. There, I said it. :whistle:
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