Essex & Adjoining Counties Meet - FRIDAY 26th August ***7pm***

[GreySilver Beast]

What you could do is book 2 tables Gary and then after we have had food , we could then retire outside etc....

Events Team

[Essex2Visuvesi]

I'll give them a call and see what we can do.... It's one of my locals so I'd prefer to have them on board with any plans.

[geofftl1000r]

I hope to be there but the schedule at work doesn't stretch that far ahead yet. What are the odds on me being on the late shift?
Geoff

[GreySilver Beast]

Gary I was text speaking to Carl who is the Chef at the pub and he said for large groups above 6 people, it would be best if we were in the Marque outside in the garden

I still left it to you to book on our behalf though

Events Team

[Essex2Visuvesi]

Tables are booked, we have 2 tables of 5 booked for 8 PM in the resturant

6 Bells
Main Rd
Boreham
Chelmsford
CM3 3JE

[Ranjan]

Guys,

Sorry for this but I am having to leave the country on Friday instead of the planned Sunday so will not be able to make this now.

Ranjan.

[geofftl1000r]

Sorry all,
We have a power down in the building this weekend so I have to work late unplugging equipment tonight.
Geoff

[casey]

Sorry to hear we've lost a couple of attendees

Just confirming I plan to be there tonight - probably take the RX-7 for a run

Better give it a quick clean first

[GreySilver Beast]

Am currently at Tesla Chelmsford using the Supercharger

Got here with 42% which is about 140miles left, still learning how the car works at the moment

See you all later.....

[warpc0il]

Can you tow charge a Tesla, like you can with a Rivian?
https://rivian.com

In the series "Long Way Up" they had a couple of pre-production Rivians supporting the prototype Harley Davison e-bikes, and often had to tow them behind IC trucks/vans when there was nowhere to plug in.

[GreySilver Beast]

I think you can and mentions something about that in the Owners Manual

[JamieM]

You can! And in fact, if you have an inefficient enough tow truck, it's actually more efficient to tow the Tesla to charge it for a while and then drive the Tesla the rest of the way, than it would be to do the entire journey with the truck alone

(And surprisingly, no, that doesn't break the laws of physics! See explanation towards the end of this video:)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RaGVoB4Zn-Y

[ChrisHolmes]

That’s a great play on numbers which cannot actually be correct. The simplest play on numbers I know is counting to 11 on your hands without counting any digit twice. Count down from 10 to 6 on one hand, then add 5 for the fingers on your other hand, result 11!

[JamieM]

Nope, it is correct. Not a play on numbers! Watch the video. It's very well explained. And the maths checks out

No laws of thermodynamics are being violated, it's just that the unladen truck is so inefficient at turning fuel into motion that it's actually more efficient to charge the Tesla, with all the losses that entails, and then have the Tesla convert that energy back from electricity to motion again, than to let the truck do it. The inefficiency of the truck vastly outweighs the losses of converting the energy 3 times, because the truck is producing *way* more torque than it actually needs to propel itself along (it is designed to be able to tow things / pull heavy loads, after all!). Most of that energy would normally just be wasted as heat, but in this case the Tesla is using it to charge, effectively, and then converts more of it back to motion than the truck could have in the first place.

Its the equivalent of using the engine in the truck to drive a generator which charges a battery, then using that battery to drive an electric motor. The engine + generator + electric motor combination is more efficient overall than the engine is alone via direct drive, because the engine is vastly over-spec'd for the purpose, so even with conversion losses the net efficiency via electric is higher. The generator can extract more useful energy from the engine than can be gained just moving the truck

In fact, some hybrid electric cars / trains use this approach, exactly because it is more efficient! Engine->generator->motor often beats the engine directly driving the wheels mechanically, somewhat counter-intuitively!

[JamieM]

While this is waaaay off topic, most of the efficiency gains associated with "Engine->generator->motor" installations is about running the engine at constant speed and load, for which it is much easier to tune for efficiency that direct drive, even via viable transmission, requires.

Getting very slightly back on topic, this is also where the rotary range extenders really shine, since they're low vibration, and high specific output (power:weight) and amazingly efficient at constant speed/load.

[JamieM]

Well, it was a small gathering, with 6 of us present, but soooo good to get out to a pub meet again for some lovely food, good company and a natter.

Great to meet Steve for the first time and see his Nordic Green RX-8

We took a few minutes to remember and reminisce about Ray. It was strange to think he won't be joining us at these meets any more

Ian brought along KIMI 2 to give KIMI 3 some company in the car park We had a pleasant convoy back from the pub to Colchester on the journey home too.

[GreySilver Beast]

Thank you Gary for organising a good evening for all of us to enjoy

Nice meeting Steve and hope he had an enjoyable time at his very first Monthly Meet

It was sad not having Ray there drinking his Tea

Events Team

[Luke Kuro]

Please Add my name to the MarksTey meet
This Month Kind Regards Luke Kuro.

[Essex2Visuvesi]

Which one shall we go for this month?
6 bells again or the bungalow at marks tey?

[Ian.Mothersole]

I'm happy with either. Might be nice to alternate?

[casey]

[GreySilver Beast]

Make a decision and I should be able to make the Meet at the end of the week

Events Team

[SteveBishopRx8]

Is there a meet this Friday?

[SteveBishopRx8]

Yes and just waiting for Gary to confirm the location - Events Team

[GreySilver Beast]

Where are we going tomorrow evening Gary - Events Team