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Top Tier Coilovers
Wondering if anyone has tried any of the top end coil overs such as Bilstein PSS9 or the KW V3 or Ohlins DFV which seem to be 'holy grail' brands, has it improved the car significantly?
Which seem to be the best coilover for the rx8, ie. great cornering performance combined with smooth ride as well.
PZ suspension seem to be highly rated, wondering if the Tein/BC/Meister Coilovers cut it or there is a compromise.
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Which seem to be the best coilover for the rx8, ie. great cornering performance combined with smooth ride as well.
PZ suspension seem to be highly rated, wondering if the Tein/BC/Meister Coilovers cut it or there is a compromise.
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Re: Top Tier Coilovers
I considered Ohlins and I have no doubt they would be superb, but would I really appreciate the difference or get the the benefit out of coil-overs that cost twice what I paid for my Tein Monosports?
At the time I did my research I could not find anyone who had used Ohlins, KW3’s or PSS9’s on an RX8. It would be great to get some direct feedback though so hopefully someone reading this can help.
At the time I did my research I could not find anyone who had used Ohlins, KW3’s or PSS9’s on an RX8. It would be great to get some direct feedback though so hopefully someone reading this can help.
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Totally agree
No doubt the ohlins will be top of the tree as they are in most applications
That’s where I’ll be going on my next build so feel free and buy some , you could then . Give some accurate feedback
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No doubt the ohlins will be top of the tree as they are in most applications
That’s where I’ll be going on my next build so feel free and buy some , you could then . Give some accurate feedback
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Buddy of mine has online on his 8 and said they were great but tbh Meisters are every bit as good IMO
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Connected it to the internet has he Ian
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Ohhhhkopite72 wrote:Buddy of mine has online on his 8 and said they were great but tbh Meisters are every bit as good IMO
Is that his opinion ?
Sounds promising
Think only downside of the ohlins is that they are advertised as fast road and race
Where as Meisters do say
Not for road use .......
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god damn predictive texting Ohlins,I meant Ohlins
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Mods so far..
BBR 200 PACKAGE
COBRA " RACE " BACK BOX
MEISTER COILOVERS
KONIG HYPERGRAMS ( POLISHED LIP)
RACING BEAT ARB's ( FRONT AND REAR )
IL MOTORSPORTS STRUT BRACE AND ADJUSTABLE
DROPLINKS
Mods planned..
BBR STAGE 2 SUPERCHARGED
WILWOOD 6 POT BBK
FULL UNDRBODY SEAL
ATOTO HEAD UNIT
Mods so far..
BBR 200 PACKAGE
COBRA " RACE " BACK BOX
MEISTER COILOVERS
KONIG HYPERGRAMS ( POLISHED LIP)
RACING BEAT ARB's ( FRONT AND REAR )
IL MOTORSPORTS STRUT BRACE AND ADJUSTABLE
DROPLINKS
Mods planned..
BBR STAGE 2 SUPERCHARGED
WILWOOD 6 POT BBK
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ATOTO HEAD UNIT
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Must say I didn’t spot that ....MARKTHOMASBRAND wrote:Connected it to the internet has he Ian
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Re: Top Tier Coilovers
The suspension on both Mandy's MX5 & my Civic are both currently Tier 4 (Top Tier)
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Re: Top Tier Coilovers
Gotta watch these paddies
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Don't know where you've read that but it's absolutely not true,I've been looking at possibly getting a set for my 5 and they are designed for both track and road usemrspiller wrote: ↑Sun Jan 03, 2021 5:20 pmOhhhhkopite72 wrote:Buddy of mine has online on his 8 and said they were great but tbh Meisters are every bit as good IMO
Is that his opinion ?
Sounds promising
Think only downside of the ohlins is that they are advertised as fast road and race
Where as Meisters do say
Not for road use .......
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R3 GONE, FUN WHILE I HAD HER BUT NOW LOVING MY 25TH ANNIVERSARY MX5
Mods so far..
BBR 200 PACKAGE
COBRA " RACE " BACK BOX
MEISTER COILOVERS
KONIG HYPERGRAMS ( POLISHED LIP)
RACING BEAT ARB's ( FRONT AND REAR )
IL MOTORSPORTS STRUT BRACE AND ADJUSTABLE
DROPLINKS
Mods planned..
BBR STAGE 2 SUPERCHARGED
WILWOOD 6 POT BBK
FULL UNDRBODY SEAL
ATOTO HEAD UNIT
Mods so far..
BBR 200 PACKAGE
COBRA " RACE " BACK BOX
MEISTER COILOVERS
KONIG HYPERGRAMS ( POLISHED LIP)
RACING BEAT ARB's ( FRONT AND REAR )
IL MOTORSPORTS STRUT BRACE AND ADJUSTABLE
DROPLINKS
Mods planned..
BBR STAGE 2 SUPERCHARGED
WILWOOD 6 POT BBK
FULL UNDRBODY SEAL
ATOTO HEAD UNIT
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Those Meisters you linked me to Ian are definitely road biased
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Taken from the meister site...
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MeisterR ZetaCRD Coilovers for Mazda MX-5 (NC) 05-14
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MeisterR ZetaCRD for Mazda MX-5 (NC) 05-14 are designed for road and track use with focus on ride compliance.
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MeisterR ZetaCRD for Mazda MX-5 (NC) 05-14 are designed for road and track use with focus on ride compliance.
Digressive damping with MeisterR CRD (Close Ratio Damping) technology, the ZetaCRD provides great ride quality over uneven road surfaces and superb control during occasional track use.
R3 GONE, FUN WHILE I HAD HER BUT NOW LOVING MY 25TH ANNIVERSARY MX5
Mods so far..
BBR 200 PACKAGE
COBRA " RACE " BACK BOX
MEISTER COILOVERS
KONIG HYPERGRAMS ( POLISHED LIP)
RACING BEAT ARB's ( FRONT AND REAR )
IL MOTORSPORTS STRUT BRACE AND ADJUSTABLE
DROPLINKS
Mods planned..
BBR STAGE 2 SUPERCHARGED
WILWOOD 6 POT BBK
FULL UNDRBODY SEAL
ATOTO HEAD UNIT
Mods so far..
BBR 200 PACKAGE
COBRA " RACE " BACK BOX
MEISTER COILOVERS
KONIG HYPERGRAMS ( POLISHED LIP)
RACING BEAT ARB's ( FRONT AND REAR )
IL MOTORSPORTS STRUT BRACE AND ADJUSTABLE
DROPLINKS
Mods planned..
BBR STAGE 2 SUPERCHARGED
WILWOOD 6 POT BBK
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ATOTO HEAD UNIT
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You could be rightkopite72 wrote:mrspiller wrote: ↑Sun Jan 03, 2021 5:20 pmOhhhhkopite72 wrote:Buddy of mine has online on his 8 and said they were great but tbh Meisters are every bit as good IMO
Is that his opinion ?
Sounds promising
Think only downside of the ohlins is that they are advertised as fast road and race
Where as Meisters do say
Not for road use .......
Dont know where you've read that but it's absolutely not true,I've been looking at possibly getting a set for my 5 and they are designed for both track and road use
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When I bought mine around 5 years ago it
did say on the instructions that they are for motorsport only
Not for use on public highway
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As saidkopite72 wrote:Taken from the meister site...
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MeisterR ZetaCRD for Mazda MX-5 (NC) 05-14 are designed for road and track use with focus on ride compliance.
Digressive damping with MeisterR CRD (Close Ratio Damping) technology, the ZetaCRD provides great ride quality over uneven road surfaces and superb control during occasional track use.
You could be right
But it does say designed for
Maybe
Not compliant then
It definitely said it , at the time I was debating whether to return them and get tein
However , many years later thing could have changed
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Not RX-8, but my RX-7 FD specialist doesn't really rate the Ohlins and recommends Meister R's instead.
I've had both Teins and Meisters on my various RX-8s, and haven't quite passed judgement on them, although do enjoy their track manners. They do ruin the ride for road driving, but I'm ok with that given my limited miles. Also, all of my fastest lap times have been set on oem suspension with the only mod being stiffer arbs.
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I've had both Teins and Meisters on my various RX-8s, and haven't quite passed judgement on them, although do enjoy their track manners. They do ruin the ride for road driving, but I'm ok with that given my limited miles. Also, all of my fastest lap times have been set on oem suspension with the only mod being stiffer arbs.
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Alan’s last statement says a lot. If you just update the ARBs then you will reduce tge body roll in corners and won’t notice a significant change in ride quality as your spring rates will be largely unchanged.MightyCondor wrote: ↑Sun Jan 03, 2021 5:58 pmNot RX-8, but my RX-7 FD specialist doesn't really rate the Ohlins and recommends Meister R's instead.
I've had both Teins and Meisters on my various RX-8s, and haven't quite passed judgement on them, although do enjoy their track manners. They do ruin the ride for road driving, but I'm ok with that given my limited miles. Also, all of my fastest lap times have been set on oem suspension with the only mod being stiffer arbs.
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That's more or less where my current setup is, roll bars and springs, but I've been experiencing some interesting traits with my car, thats on my other thread, ''Is the RX8 a 10/10ths car''.ChrisHolmes wrote: ↑Sun Jan 03, 2021 6:18 pmAlan’s last statement says a lot. If you just update the ARBs then you will reduce tge body roll in corners and won’t notice a significant change in ride quality as your spring rates will be largely unchanged.MightyCondor wrote: ↑Sun Jan 03, 2021 5:58 pmNot RX-8, but my RX-7 FD specialist doesn't really rate the Ohlins and recommends Meister R's instead.
I've had both Teins and Meisters on my various RX-8s, and haven't quite passed judgement on them, although do enjoy their track manners. They do ruin the ride for road driving, but I'm ok with that given my limited miles. Also, all of my fastest lap times have been set on oem suspension with the only mod being stiffer arbs.
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What is 10-10th ?Django91 wrote:That's more or less where my current setup is, roll bars and springs, but I've been experiencing some interesting traits with my car, thats on my other thread, ''Is the RX8 a 10/10ths car''.ChrisHolmes wrote: ↑Sun Jan 03, 2021 6:18 pmAlan’s last statement says a lot. If you just update the ARBs then you will reduce tge body roll in corners and won’t notice a significant change in ride quality as your spring rates will be largely unchanged.MightyCondor wrote: ↑Sun Jan 03, 2021 5:58 pmNot RX-8, but my RX-7 FD specialist doesn't really rate the Ohlins and recommends Meister R's instead.
I've had both Teins and Meisters on my various RX-8s, and haven't quite passed judgement on them, although do enjoy their track manners. They do ruin the ride for road driving, but I'm ok with that given my limited miles. Also, all of my fastest lap times have been set on oem suspension with the only mod being stiffer arbs.
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If you're driving at 10/10ths you're right on the limit
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Something “you” drive at in your 8!
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I think 10/10 is the level at which anyone who isn't a driving god inevitably finds a ditch or barrier.
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