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UPDATE Page 4: **SAFETY ALERT: Fuel Tank recall - Fuel Leaks & Other Issues"

Post by casey » Thu Aug 27, 2020 4:00 pm

There are a few topics scattered on the forum on the subject of this Mazda Recall:

“Safety Recall – Fuel Tank”
AH022A Fuel Leak At Fuel Pump Mounting Ring
AH023A Fuel Leak At Fuel Pump Discharge Pipe


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There have been a small, but disturbing number of RX-8 owners who have had this work performed by a Mazda dealership, only to find mild to severe fuel leaks when brimming their tank upon completion of the recall.

Some owners have also reported that the fuel gauge no longer reads correctly, or in one case not at all. The problems there appear to be;
- trapped/damaged wiring
- loose connections
- bent float arms
- components accidentally swapped from one side of the tank to the other, even though they're obviously different.

Here is one of the more severe leaks (on my car, first fill after the recall work)!):




The leaks do not seem to manifest themselves unless the fuel tank is full. After Mazda had attempted to fix my leak, it was only the last 2 litres of fuel that revealed a leak still existed, albeit less severe than in the video above.

The problem is, we have no idea as to the scale of the issue. Is there just a very small number of cars suffering these leaks, or is there a more widespread issue?

If you have had this work completed, I would not recommend brimming your tank without immediately checking for a fuel leak from either/both of the two tank sealing rings at the top of the fuel tank, situated under the rear seats. If you feel confident, then there is a simple process to check for leaks, requiring only a crosshead screwdriver. You can follow this procedure:

Pull hard on the front, lower edge of both rear seat squabs to detach them from the two clips holding each squab in place. Lift out both squabs to reveal the fuel tank inspection covers on each side.

This is the view on the passenger side:
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Unscrew the four crosshead screws holding each cover plate in place, placing the screws somewhere safe.
Passenger Side Fuel Tank Cover Close.jpg
Squeeze the small, black plastic clip holding the cable harness to the covers on each and place the covers safely to one side.
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You will now have a clear view of both tank sealing covers. This is the view on the driver's side.
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Check for any signs of fuel leaks. If none, go and fill your tank with fuel until the pump cutout triggers, ideally, checking for leaks as your tank approaches full. Should you experience a leak, you will need to have thought in advance of your options!

1. Maybe choose a filling station where you can easily push your car to a safe location at the station.
2. If fuel is leaking under the car, the staff at the filling station should be able to offer some help with sand or similar.
3. Ideally, you will have a valid breakdown cover, through which you can arrange to have your car picked up and taken back to the Mazda dealer for rectification, or another garage of your choice.

I cannot recommend you drive your car if you do discover a petrol leak, so plan carefully for what you will do if you find a leak.

The club committee have a meeting scheduled for 27 September and we will review the issues relating to this recall. To help us, it would be extremely helpful if you can post up below:

1. Have you received this recall notice?
2. Have you had the work completed?
3. If you have had the recall completed, which dealership did the work and roughly when?
4. If you have received the recall and not had the work done, what is your reason?
5. If you have had the work done, have you experienced any leaks?
6. If you have had the work done and not experienced any leaks, have you completely filled your tank at least once?
7. Did you experience any other issues, such as fuel the gauge reading incorrectly? If so, please give details.

For example, my answers would be:

1. Yes
2. Yes
3. Underwoods Mazda, Colchester, Aug 2020
4. N/A
5. Yes
6. N/A
7. No other issues noted

We am currently aware of 7, possibly 8, cars which have suffered leaks and I shall be PM’ing those owners to make them aware of this topic.

On behalf of the entire RX-8 owning community, I thank you in advance if you can help us clarify the scale of this issue. The committee can then decide if the scale warrants action to further safeguard owners. Mazda UK have been alerted to the issue, but have, to date, chosen not to get involved, placing the responsibility for workmanship squarely with the individual dealers.
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Re: **SAFETY ALERT: Fuel Tank recall - Fuel Leaks & Other Issues"

Post by nightfire10 » Thu Aug 27, 2020 4:40 pm

First booked in at canford cliffs Magna Mazda on 9th feb 2018
1 yes
2 yes
3 magna mazda feb 2018 then christchurch mazda
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5 no
6 yes
7 oh yes
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Dear whoever it may concern,

I am an owner of a 2008 Mazda RX8 (registration W8 ERE) in the Poole, Dorset area. In reference to the recent recall work of this particular model, the car has visited the Mazda Canford Cliffs garage 7 times. This in itself is quite frankly shocking, as one would hope the work being carried out should be correct on the first attempt. The most recent visit lasted 2 and a half days, which is a further inconvenience.

The fuel gauge is now reading worse than before, after being filled with fuel by the Mazda technicians, which lead to the car running out fuel last week while the gauge was reading 1/4 of a tank. Prior to this, the first half of the tank provided 136 miles (see attached photo), with a further 58 miles before running empty, proving the magnitude of the issue.

I am disheartened with the service I have received so far, despite my passion for the wonderful cars. Seeing as the issue itself was originally a recall from the company yourselves, it is expected that the technicians and the service provided would be specialised and effective.

I would like to know what the plan is regarding the matter, and would appreciate it being resolved as soon as possible. We have an upcoming trip around Europe in the car, including a track day, which would be affected by the fuel gauge issue in the car greatly.

Please get back to me on the matter, feel free to call me on 07528665000.

Many thanks,

Stephen Griffin
MMUKAssistance <mmukassistance@mazdaeur.com>
Fri 31/08/2018 14:06
Good afternoon Mr Griffin,



I have tried to contact the mobile number on our database and I was unable to get through.



I am following up on your vehicle which is currently at Magna Motors Christchurch. I have spoken to Neil in service who advised they need to carry out further diagnostics on the car and they have ordered new fuel tank unit to see if that would resolve the current issue with the vehicle. I will work with the dealership to make sure any repair are carried out as efficiently as possible.



If there is anything else I can do to help, please feel free to reply to this email or call me on 03457 48 48 48.



Yours sincerely,
They had the car for approx one week eventualy finding the trapped wire ,any more recalls i wouldnt know where to take it .
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Re: **SAFETY ALERT: Fuel Tank recall - Fuel Leaks & Other Issues"

Post by warpc0il » Thu Aug 27, 2020 5:03 pm

1. Have you received this recall notice?
2. Have you had the work completed?
3. If you have had the recall completed, which dealership did the work and roughly when?
4. If you have received the recall and not had the work done, what is your reason?
5. If you have had the work done, have you experienced any leaks?
6. If you have had the work done and not experienced any leaks, have you completely filled your tank at least once?
7. Did you experience any other issues, such as fuel the gauge reading incorrectly? If so, please give details.

1. Yes
2. Yes
3. Ballyroberts Mazda, Belfast. Feb 2020
4. Had delayed because of horror stories from other members. Took the risk as was attending Three Sisters.
5. Not yet
6. Filled immediately after collecting car, and once since. Car has been driven to and around Three Sisters and thrown around in ferry on the way back, without any sign of leak. However, haven't removed seat squab to check.
7. Minor issue with front suspension recall, undertaken at same time, but not with fuel tank.
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Re: **SAFETY ALERT: Fuel Tank recall - Fuel Leaks & Other Issues"

Post by Naz » Thu Aug 27, 2020 5:55 pm

1. Have you received this recall notice?
2. Have you had the work completed?
3. If you have had the recall completed, which dealership did the work and roughly when?
4. If you have received the recall and not had the work done, what is your reason?
5. If you have had the work done, have you experienced any leaks?
6. If you have had the work done and not experienced any leaks, have you completely filled your tank at least once?
7. Did you experience any other issues, such as fuel the gauge reading incorrectly? If so, please give details.

For example, my answers would be:

1. Yes
2. Yes
3. Mazda Romford / Colliers Wood approx. Summer 2019
4. N/A
5. No
6. No (don't drive it enough anymore to warrant it sadly)
7. No. Although a day after it was done I was visiting Essex Rotary where they double checked the fitment but didn't suggest there were any issues.
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Re: **SAFETY ALERT: Fuel Tank recall - Fuel Leaks & Other Issues"

Post by xamtex » Thu Aug 27, 2020 6:14 pm

1.yes
2.yes
3.coventry mazda 30th april 2018
4.n/a
5.yes 18th may 2018,jacked up rear of car to do rear brakes and fuel started to pour from tank...called cov mazda who said bring it in and we will have a look. i refused to drive it and was then told to get it recovered then.
i called mazda uk who told me not to drive it and they would arrange recovery...2 hrs later a flatbed arrived and took it to cov mazda. i called them saturday morning and they said they could not find anything...the leak had mysteriously cured itself overnight.i collected it and it seemed ok.
fast forward to 18th june i filled up and parked in my garage,next morning i was met with a garage full of petrol fumes. i pushed it outside and removed the seat squab and cover plate to find this...
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i took it back and they had a 3rd attempt to fix a leak it never had till they got hold of it...so far so good.
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7.n/a
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Re: **SAFETY ALERT: Fuel Tank recall - Fuel Leaks & Other Issues"

Post by neizt » Thu Aug 27, 2020 6:35 pm

1. Yes
2. Yes
3. Perry's Mazda Preston - April/May 2019
4. N/A
5. No
6. Yes every time (20+ tanks)
7. No
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Re: **SAFETY ALERT: Fuel Tank recall - Fuel Leaks & Other Issues"

Post by Brittishlion1 » Thu Aug 27, 2020 6:54 pm

1st garage recall visit last year, car had very heavy petrol smell after.
2nd garage recall visit last year, replaced O Ring , still smelling of petrol.
3rd garage recall visit last year, checked and could not find anything wrong.

Back on road March this year,
Filled petrol tank to the max,
I lost 1/4 of a tank in two miles.

4th garage visit two months ago.
Replaced O ring again, no problems so far.
I also filled tank to the max as before , All good with no issues to report.
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Post by Brittishlion1 » Thu Aug 27, 2020 6:56 pm

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Post by Reloy » Thu Aug 27, 2020 7:01 pm

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1. Yes
2. Yes
3 Wessex Garages Mazda, Bristol, Feb 2020
4. N/A
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Re: **SAFETY ALERT: Fuel Tank recall - Fuel Leaks & Other Issues"

Post by kek23k » Thu Aug 27, 2020 7:15 pm

1. Yes
2. Yes
3. JCT Mazda Leeds, October 2019
4. NA
5. No
6. Yes, always fill tank to max and no leaks
7. No problems at all, serviced at RotaryRevs shortly after recall work and they didn't find any issues either.
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Re: **SAFETY ALERT: Fuel Tank recall - Fuel Leaks & Other Issues"

Post by pfletcher83 » Thu Aug 27, 2020 7:16 pm

1. Have you received this recall notice?
2. Have you had the work completed?
3. If you have had the recall completed, which dealership did the work and roughly when?
4. If you have received the recall and not had the work done, what is your reason?
5. If you have had the work done, have you experienced any leaks?
6. If you have had the work done and not experienced any leaks, have you completely filled your tank at least once?
7. Did you experience any other issues, such as fuel the gauge reading incorrectly? If so, please give details.

1. Yes
2. Yes
3. Bolton Motorpark Mazda - Sometime early 2019
4. N/A
5. Yes - Severe leak Immediately after filling tank as soon as i collected car. There was still smell of fuel when i collected so i didn't notice until following day when i noticed a large patch under car at work.
6. N/A
7. Had issue with front suspension arm recall where they didn't preload suspension when tightening. Work done at same time as fuel recall however fuel gauge etc seem to be ok.
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Re: **SAFETY ALERT: Fuel Tank recall - Fuel Leaks & Other Issues"

Post by casey » Thu Aug 27, 2020 7:20 pm

Just making a note here from Facebook feedback:

Paul Barks (UK RX8 Owners Group)
1. Yes
2. Yes
3. Vospers Mazda, Exeter
4. N/A
5. No
6. UNKNOWN
7. No

Harry Cruz (USA) (UK RX8 Owners Group)
1. Yes
2. Yes
3. Wayne Mazda, NJ, USA
4. N/A
5. Yes
6. UNKNOWN
7. UNKNOWN

Тон Энтон (UK RX8 Owners Group for sensible people)
1. Yes
2. Yes
3. Chris Allen Mazda, Fleetwood (nr Blackpool)
4. N/A
5. No
6. Yes
7. UNKNOWN

Carlos Vitoria Scottish RX8 Owners Club
1. Yes
2. Yes
3. Mazda Inverness
4. N/A
5. No
6. UNKNOWN
7. UNKNOWN

Alan Harvey (UK RX8 Owners Group)
1. Yes
2. Yes
3. UNKNOWN, Jan 2020
4. N/A
5. No
6. No
7. UNKNOWN

Frankie Wong (UK RX8 Owners Group)
1. Yes
2. Yes
3. UNKNOWN, March 2020
4. N/A
5. Yes
6. UNKNOWN
7. UNKNOWN

Alex Neale-Fowler (UK RX8 Owners Group)
1. Yes
2. Yes
3. UNKNOWN, July 2020
4. N/A
5. No
6. No
7. No

Paul Andrew Vernon (UK RX8 Owners Group for sensible people)
1. Yes
2. Yes
3. UNKNOWN, 2018
4. N/A
5. No
6. No
7. No

James Morley (RX8 Owners Group for sensible people)
1. Yes
2. Yes
3. UNKNOWN, Jan 2019
4. N/A
5. No
6. UNKNOWN
7. No

Chris Guest UK (RX8 Owners Group for sensible people)
1. Yes
2. Yes
3. UNKNOWN, 2019
4. N/A
5. No
6. UNKNOWN
7. No

Gabriel Steiner (Scottish RX8 Owners Club)
1. Yes
2. Yes
3. Mazda Inverness, Aug 2020
4. N/A
5. No
6. UNKNOWN
7. UNKNOWN

Gaz Saunders (RX8 Owners Group for sensible people)
1. Yes
2. Yes
3. UNKNOWN, 2019
4. N/A
5. No
6. UNKNOWN
7. UNKNOWN

Christine Youngs (Scottish RX8 Owners Club)
1. Yes
2. Yes
3. UNKNOWN, 2019
4. N/A
5. No
6. UNKNOWN
7. UNKNOWN

Stuart James (UK RX8 Owners Group)
1. Yes
2. No
3. N/A
4. Scheduled for October
5. N/A
6. N/A
7. N/A

Anthony Bush (UK RX8 Owners Group)
1. Yes
2. No
3. N/A
4. Off the road ATM
5. N/A
6. N/A
7. N/A

Luke Hill (UK RX8 Owners Group)
1. Yes
2. Yes
3. Turnbull Mazda Leeds, July 2018?
4. N/A
5. Yes
6. UNKNOWN
7. UNKNOWN

Liam Horsley (UK RX8 Owners Group)
1. Yes
2. Yes
3. UNKNOWN
4. N/A
5. No
6. UNKNOWN
7. UNKNOWN

Roger Richards (RX8 Owners Group for sensible people)
1. Yes
2. No
3. N/A
4. Vospers Mazda Exeter, Scheduled for 8 Sept
5. N/A
6. N/A
7. N/A

Danny West (AX08BWP - Dean Bayley fixed)
1. Yes
2. Yes
3. UNKNOWN
4. N/A
5. Yes - ring not torqued correctly.
6. UNKNOWN
7. UNKNOWN

WN04UZW (Dean Bayley)(UK RX8 Owners Group)
1. Yes
2. Yes
3. UNKNOWN
4. N/A
5. Yes - ring cross-threaded
6. UNKNOWN
7. UNKNOWN

?? (Dean Bayley reported) (UK RX8 Owners Group)
1. Yes
2. Yes
3. UNKNOWN
4. N/A
5. Yes
6. UNKNOWN
7. UNKNOWN

Micheal Wood (UK RX8 Owners Group)
1. Yes
2. Yes
3. UNKNOWN, July 2020
4. N/A
5. "sent mine for fuel recall as it had developed a huge leak"
6. UNKNOWN
7. UNKNOWN

Cyril Bur (UK RX8 Owners Group)
1. Yes
2. Yes
3. UNKNOWN
4. N/A
5. No
6. UNKNOWN
7. UNKNOWN

Lee Jackson (UK RX8 Owners Group)
1. Yes
2. Yes
3. Holdcroft Mazda, Hanley (Stoke)
4. N/A
5. No
6. UNKNOWN
7. UNKNOWN

Steve Welsby (UK RX8 Owners Group)
1. Yes
2. Yes
3. UNKNOWN
4. N/A
5. No
6. UNKNOWN
7. UNKNOWN

Peter Locke (UK RX8 Owners Group)
1. Yes
2. Yes
3. Western Mazda, Edinburgh
4. N/A
5. No
6. UNKNOWN
7. UNKNOWN

Lee Beaumont (RX8 Familia)
1. Yes
2. No
3. N/A
4. Does not trust Mazda dealers to do the work
5. N/A
6. UNKNOWN
7. UNKNOWN

Dan Wimbleton (RX8 Familia)
1. Yes
2. Yes
3. UNKNOWN
4. N/A
5. No
6. UNKNOWN
7. UNKNOWN

Dave Corkin (RX8 Familia)
1. Yes
2. No
3. N/A
4. Does not trust Mazda dealers to do the work
5. N/A
6. UNKNOWN
7. UNKNOWN

Brett Hunt (RX8 Familia)
1. Yes
2. No
3. N/A
4. Does not trust Mazda dealers to do the work
5. N/A
6. UNKNOWN
7. UNKNOWN

Stevss Andy (RX8 Familia)
1. Yes
2. Yes
3. UNKNOWN
4. N/A
5. No
6. UNKNOWN
7. UNKNOWN

Celia Hatton (RX8 Familia)
1. Yes
2. No
3. N/A
4. Does not trust Mazda dealers to do the work
5. N/A
6. UNKNOWN
7. UNKNOWN
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Re: **SAFETY ALERT: Fuel Tank recall - Fuel Leaks & Other Issues"

Post by fishywick » Thu Aug 27, 2020 7:30 pm

1. Have you received this recall notice? - yes
2. Have you had the work completed? - no
3. If you have had the recall completed, which dealership did the work and roughly when? - n/a
4. If you have received the recall and not had the work done, what is your reason? - fearful that the work will not be completed correctly and with the required competence. This could potentially leave the car in a dangerous state as evidenced by some of the cases above. In short I may well be left with a car that has more faults than the ones the recall notice was designed to resolve.
5. If you have had the work done, have you experienced any leaks? - n/a
6. If you have had the work done and not experienced any leaks, have you completely filled your tank at least once? - n/a
7. Did you experience any other issues, such as fuel the gauge reading incorrectly? If so, please give details.- n/a

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Post by 13Black » Thu Aug 27, 2020 7:36 pm

1. Yes.
2. Yes.
3. Sandicliffe Loughborough, May 2019 I think? Can try and find out but that's probably correct.
4. -
5. No.
6. Yes.
7. Yes they totally bodged my LCAs while sorting out that recall, but no problems fuel related.
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Re: **SAFETY ALERT: Fuel Tank recall - Fuel Leaks & Other Issues"

Post by Pitbull » Thu Aug 27, 2020 7:54 pm

Casey, here is our response:-

1. Yes
2. Yes
3. Clevedon Mazda, Somerset, Oct 2018
4. N/A
5. Yes, Major fuel leak the first time that the tank was refilled after the work had been completed. We were going on an RX8 owners club social meet and had our 6 yr old daughter with us who was sitting in the rear passenger seat, so basically on top of the leaking fuel tank.
The car was recovered to Clevedon Mazda who repaired it and we don't appear to have any issues since, but very concerned over what could have happened.
6. N/A
7. No other issues noted
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Re: **SAFETY ALERT: Fuel Tank recall - Fuel Leaks & Other Issues"

Post by Gazz86 » Thu Aug 27, 2020 8:48 pm

1.yes
2.yes
3.mazda Coventry 2018
4.N/a
5.no
6.yes
7.no
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Re: **SAFETY ALERT: Fuel Tank recall - Fuel Leaks & Other Issues"

Post by Davemitch » Thu Aug 27, 2020 9:04 pm

1. Yes
2. Yes
3. S G Petch - Darlington
4 . n/a
5. Fuel tank leaked from full to 1/2 tank outside my house (pics available.
6. N/a
7. They also changed my wishbone on another recall, knocked my tracking out and expected me to accept this back when it pulled heavily to the left, then charged me £60 parts to fix their mistake! See my thread on S G Petch Darlington
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Re: **SAFETY ALERT: Fuel Tank recall - Fuel Leaks & Other Issues"

Post by casey » Fri Aug 28, 2020 12:06 am

Pictures would be most helpful to support this issue Dave. You can either post them here, or PM them to me please.
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Re: **SAFETY ALERT: Fuel Tank recall - Fuel Leaks & Other Issues"

Post by bigpete8 » Fri Aug 28, 2020 7:37 am

1. Yes
2. Yes
3. Hodgson Mazda gateshead 2019
4. N/a
5. No
6. Yes
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Re: **SAFETY ALERT: Fuel Tank recall - Fuel Leaks & Other Issues"

Post by Juey » Fri Aug 28, 2020 9:59 am

1. Yes
2. Yes
3. Donalds Mazda Peterborough. Summer 2019 I think (after a call to Mazda UK as JDM imports dont get the usual recall notices!)
4. N/A
5. No
6. yes, many times
7. Fueling fine, but managed to disconnect an HT lead, spotted day after thankfully.
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Re: **SAFETY ALERT: Fuel Tank recall - Fuel Leaks & Other Issues"

Post by Davemitch » Fri Aug 28, 2020 11:48 am

casey wrote:
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Pictures would be most helpful to support this issue Dave. You can either post them here, or PM them to me please.
Heres the pics I have :)
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Re: **SAFETY ALERT: Fuel Tank recall - Fuel Leaks & Other Issues"

Post by Stocksy888 » Fri Aug 28, 2020 1:35 pm

Hi guys, new to the forum but after hearing about this recall going wrong for what seems like quite a few RX8 owners I thought I'd offer my positive experience I had doing the recall.

1. Yes
2. Yes
3. Stoneacre Mazda Doncaster February 2019
4. N/A
5. No
6. Yes, countless times.
7. No

I've driven approximately 8,000 miles since the recall and I always fill my RX8 full everytime I visit a petrol station. Although I've never taken the back seats out to check for any fuel, I have never smelt fuel while driving or whilst it is parked on my drive and there has never been a puddle of fuel left on the driveway either.
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Re: **SAFETY ALERT: Fuel Tank recall - Fuel Leaks & Other Issues"

Post by Davemitch » Fri Aug 28, 2020 2:25 pm

I was also promised a £100 voucher from mazda UK for my issues with £60 charge of parts to get my car back, which of course, I never received!
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Re: **SAFETY ALERT: Fuel Tank recall - Fuel Leaks & Other Issues"

Post by Templ8 » Fri Aug 28, 2020 5:04 pm


1. Yes
2. Yes
3. Holdcroft Mazda, Oldham, December 2019
4. N/a
5. No
6. Yes, approximately 15 full tanks
7. No issues.

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Re: **SAFETY ALERT: Fuel Tank recall - Fuel Leaks & Other Issues"

Post by qwakers » Fri Aug 28, 2020 5:15 pm

1. Yes
2. No
3. N/A
4. airbags> pointless, they are either not present or not rx8 parts. fuel tank> no way on earth are mazda touching my tank, i like my fuel to stay inside. control arms> doesnt apply to my car.
5. N/A
6. N/A
7. N/A
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