Mazdaedit

[Rosssheehan76]

hi has anyone used mazda edit before thinking of getting g it was wondering if it was worth it.
I just want to increase the idle a bit thats all really.

[ChrisHolmes]

It would be a very expensive way to just adjust your idle speed. Why do you feel you need to increase your idle speed if you don’t mind me asking?

[warpc0il]

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[350matt]

If you want to tinker and have a series of mods planned then yes go for it

however if you want a re-tune just the once I'd get in touch with ryan rotary as they offer a remote mapping service which is a lot cheaper than buying the tactrix and software yourself

https://www.ryanrotaryperformance.com/remote-ecu-tuning

[Rosssheehan76]

Just wanted to raise the idle for our flow/pressure Or is it not needes. Im pretty new to the rx8 especially a running one. Just want to do everything to it to make it last as long as possible.

[350matt]

If you want to increase oil pressure easiest thing to do is swap to 10W40 oil
its what most rotary engine builders recommend anyway as opposed to the 5W30

other tips for extending the engine life are to premix a little 2 stroke oil in the fuel
ensure the oil injectors are actually working
change the oil and filter regularly

you could also drop the sump and adjust / fit the oil pressure regulators to increase the oil pressure

[ChrisHolmes]

Fitting the uprated pressure valve will not increase the idle oil pressure only the maximum pressure. As said above 10w40 oil is the way to go for a slightly better idle oil pressure.

[Rosssheehan76]

Thanks guys ill do a service on it now and change it to 10w40.

[Ryan Rotary Performance]

So this is quite timely.

I'm about to go live on our YouTube channel with the 1st episode of the Mazdaedit guide.

While not covered in the 1st episode using Mazdaedit to raise the idle speed and therefore idle pressure is a great way of adding in further protection to the Rotor and Stationary bearings.

This is something i do on pretty much all minimaps now unless the customer wishes for me not to.

[350matt]

cool
where's the link?

[SprintRX8]

Fitting the uprated pressure valve will not increase the idle oil pressure only the maximum pressure. As said above 10w40 oil is the way to go for a slightly better idle oil pressure.

You can fit a couple of shims behind the oil pressure spring.
That will increase idle pressure.
Essex Rotary uprated oil pressure valve came with the shims.



Mazda Edit.
Can you turn off items such as.
ABS

[Ryan Rotary Performance]

Fitting the uprated pressure valve will not increase the idle oil pressure only the maximum pressure. As said above 10w40 oil is the way to go for a slightly better idle oil pressure.

You can fit a couple of shims behind the oil pressure spring.
That will increase idle pressure.
Essex Rotary uprated oil pressure valve came with the shims.



Mazda Edit.
Can you turn off items such as.
ABS

That video is a load of rubbish (soz)

[Paul_13]

Mazda Edit.
Can you turn off items such as.
ABS

No, the ABS/DSC is a separate module

[SprintRX8]

Fitting the uprated pressure valve will not increase the idle oil pressure only the maximum pressure. As said above 10w40 oil is the way to go for a slightly better idle oil pressure.

You can fit a couple of shims behind the oil pressure spring.
That will increase idle pressure.
Essex Rotary uprated oil pressure valve came with the shims.



Mazda Edit.
Can you turn off items such as.
ABS

That video is a load of rubbish (soz)

For what reasons.
Care to enlighten?.

[SprintRX8]

Mazda Edit.
Can you turn off items such as.
ABS

No, the ABS/DSC is a separate module

So how could one disable those system if not fitted or used as on my Sprint.

Don’t really want to fit ABS or the sensors.

[warpc0il]

If the ABS/DSC/EBD fail their preflight self test then they're just disabled and the car runs without them.

Leaving the fuse(s) out is sufficient so, if you've not fitted the boxes, that will work too.

You will have the warning lights on the dash, assuming you're planning to use the 8's panel, so some black tape inside might be a good idea, or just clip lamps out.

[Paul_13]

Mazda Edit.
Can you turn off items such as.
ABS

No, the ABS/DSC is a separate module

So how could one disable those system if not fitted or used as on my Sprint.

Don’t really want to fit ABS or the sensors.

How are you going to get a speedo working?

[ChrisHolmes]

You can fit a couple of shims behind the oil pressure spring.
That will increase idle pressure.
Essex Rotary uprated oil pressure valve came with the shims.



Mazda Edit.
Can you turn off items such as.
ABS

That video is a load of rubbish (soz)

For what reasons.
Care to enlighten?.

Carl is absolutely correct. Both those valves are pressure relief valves and have zero affect on the oil pressure at idle.
A couple of years ago I exchanged numerous emails with Essex Rotary regarding how an uprated relief valve will only increase the maximum oil pressure in the oil system. I am surprised this misinformation from them is still being circulated when it is clearly incorrect.

[Ryan Rotary Performance]

What Chris has already said, the pump only gives out what it can give out at idle (about 25PSI from memory) this not enough to activate either front or rear release valve.

The front already being over 100PSI in my experience.

[xamtex]

when hot my idle oil pressure scares me,raising the idle with the throttle by 100 rpm,probably less doubles the pressure so mapping its idle speed up just a little would be worth the effort for me...its on the to do list at some point.
i have proper gauges and at idle it drops under 1 bar..with 100 rpm its 1.5--2 bar. im using 10/30 fully synth oil.

[SprintRX8]

No, the ABS/DSC is a separate module

So how could one disable those system if not fitted or used as on my Sprint.

Don’t really want to fit ABS or the sensors.

How are you going to get a speedo working?

At the moment unsure.
Possibly just fitting one abs sensor and linking in to that.

Re Oil.
Thanks
For clearing that up always best to check.

[warpc0il]

The PCM doesn't doesn't calculate the speed directly from the wheel sensors.

"Wheel speed" is calculated by the DSC/ABS ECU and fed to the PCM via the CANBUS, which uses it as an input for various parameters (like cooling fan control) and outputs to the speedo display and the Power Steering ECU.

[warpc0il]

I just want to increase the idle a bit that's all really.

Just in case anyone is under the impression that there's just a single parameter that is "Idle Speed", this is the table of those things that influence the target idle speed that the PCM is aiming for...

Idle Speed Control.jpg

[xamtex]

can you just remap the target idle speed?

[350matt]

I should say so
there are however about 8 maps for idle speed as Dave's post shows there are many scenarios for how the PCM controls the idle

not something I've tweaked on mine but Mazda Edit only opens up the target speeds so I'd imagine thats all you do change