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Brake squeal only when cold

Post by bigpete8 »

Noticed this more now with the cold weather but brakes squeal at low speeds until they are warmed.

If I don't get them warmed before breaking at speed its a little bit like a wobble board sound

But if they are warmed through then everything is fine....
Had new disks and pads summer before last iirc
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Re: Brake squeal only when cold

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what pads, some are just noisier than others....
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Re: Brake squeal only when cold

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my old Mintex pads were loud when under light braking.
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Re: Brake squeal only when cold

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They are mintex but just their normal OEM style
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Re: Brake squeal only when cold

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Could be glazing of the pads and / or deposit build up in the discs.
Do you always brake lightly or do you have occasional good hard braking applications. The latter should prevent glazing and clear any deposits.
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Re: Brake squeal only when cold

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Removing the pads, cleaning the backs and pins and then applying a fresh thin coat of Ceratec can often fix this issue, especially if the previous installation was left dry or copper grease was use.
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Re: Brake squeal only when cold

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Chris
Don't think that's likely as not overly gentle on the brakes

Dave
They definately werent left dry when I fitted them. But a good clean is probably my first port of call.
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Re: Brake squeal only when cold

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Mine squeal really badly under light braking and thats with mintex pads I'm using with the BB kit on the group buy a while back.
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Re: Brake squeal only when cold

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Scartlead wrote:
Sat Nov 23, 2019 4:52 pm
Mine squeal really badly under light braking and thats with mintex pads I'm using with the BB kit on the group buy a while back.
If you are on 1144 compound they should not squeal at all
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Re: Brake squeal only when cold

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Some thought I did have.... I replaced the shims with the ones that came with pads as originals were very corroded and splitting at the edges is it worth trying to get some more?
And also had a load of grief trying to fit them as had to file pads metal edges down
Despite cleaning clips and calipers
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Re: Brake squeal only when cold

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Actually it's funny how things occur annually....
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Re: Brake squeal only when cold

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ChrisHolmes wrote:
Sat Nov 23, 2019 7:30 pm
Scartlead wrote:
Sat Nov 23, 2019 4:52 pm
Mine squeal really badly under light braking and thats with mintex pads I'm using with the BB kit on the group buy a while back.
If you are on 1144 compound they should not squeal at all
mine did under light braking.
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Re: Brake squeal only when cold

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Yeah they only dont squeal when your foot is reasonably hard down on the pedal, in fact embarrassingly loud when feathering the brake :shock:
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Re: Brake squeal only when cold

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Mine is worst pulling up to junctions or sitting in traffic.
But like I said above is more disconcerting breaking from speed if they haven't warmed.
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Re: Brake squeal only when cold

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Hmm! I have never had any squeaking from 1144 pads.
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Re: Brake squeal only when cold

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:-k I wonder if this is a reaction to residue left on the discs from previous pad materials.
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Re: Brake squeal only when cold

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Definately some cross talk on this thread...😁

Pads are OEM mintex not 1144 and discs were new
And I'm out of bed at 4am due to hacking cough ☹️
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Re: Brake squeal only when cold

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Okay well didn't get to look at car due to last week's illness and catching up on work stuff..

Today the left rear brake disc seems substantially hotter than the rest. Think it must be binding a bit....
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