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Metra kit, anything better?

Post by Scartlead » Fri Nov 01, 2019 3:46 pm

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Having been toying with changing the head unit, but have read that although the metrakit seems to be good, it’s not 100% reliable. Is there anything out there that allows a head unit change but keeps climate controls and is reliable in its function?
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Re: Metra kit, anything better?

Post by TheManc » Fri Nov 01, 2019 3:57 pm

its the only option

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Re: Metra kit, anything better?

Post by New Duke » Fri Nov 01, 2019 4:24 pm

You could swap it for an R3? Then it's simple fascia change. Depends on how desperate you are to avoid the Metra kit buttons I guess. May seem drastic to swap cars given all the work you've put in, but it is an option/solution so had to offer it.

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Re: Metra kit, anything better?

Post by Mherby » Fri Nov 01, 2019 4:38 pm

The metra kit in mine wound me up so much I pulled it all out and put a standard Bose back in, I'd like a nice Android Auto double din HU in the car but having HVAC controls that were a bit hit and miss annoyed me more than the lack of a modern HU.

I've gone for one of the bluetooth Grom BT3 boxes and got a CD slot mounted phone holder which works quite well.

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Re: Metra kit, anything better?

Post by Scartlead » Fri Nov 01, 2019 4:45 pm

Mherby wrote:
Fri Nov 01, 2019 4:38 pm
The metra kit in mine wound me up so much I pulled it all out and put a standard Bose back in, I'd like a nice Android Auto double din HU in the car but having HVAC controls that were a bit hit and miss annoyed me more than the lack of a modern HU.

I've gone for one of the bluetooth Grom BT3 boxes and got a CD slot mounted phone holder which works quite well.
And that is exactly the reason for the thread. I’d like a double din replacement, but it’s comments like this I’ve read before put me off. Plus having a 10.1 oem unit, means I’d need to change that too going with a grom.
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Re: Metra kit, anything better?

Post by Ryan Rotary Performance » Fri Nov 01, 2019 4:46 pm

Only option for now....

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Re: Metra kit, anything better?

Post by Scartlead » Fri Nov 01, 2019 4:46 pm

New Duke wrote:
Fri Nov 01, 2019 4:24 pm
You could swap it for an R3? Then it's simple fascia change. Depends on how desperate you are to avoid the Metra kit buttons I guess. May seem drastic to swap cars given all the work you've put in, but it is an option/solution so had to offer it.
If it worked 100% all of the time, then wouldn’t be an issue to be fair.
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Re: Metra kit, anything better?

Post by Scartlead » Fri Nov 01, 2019 4:47 pm

Ryan Rotary Performance wrote:
Fri Nov 01, 2019 4:46 pm
Only option for now....
Now Carl, you cant say that and not give us a ‘little’ more info :D
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Re: Metra kit, anything better?

Post by Ryan Rotary Performance » Fri Nov 01, 2019 4:49 pm

Too early to give anything concrete, its been a low priority project for a while however, if demand is high........

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Re: Metra kit, anything better?

Post by warpc0il » Fri Nov 01, 2019 4:54 pm

There was someone that stripped the board out of the oem headunit, fitted it in a plastic box and bolted up behind the fascia.
This was before Metra offered their "Climate Control option" and he was able to use the original "Manual A/C only" version, with the Climate Control still working as normal and a nice after-market double DIN audio system.

I can't find the thread and I suspect it's been long since purged by forum housekeeping
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Re: Metra kit, anything better?

Post by Juey » Fri Nov 01, 2019 5:00 pm

Ryan Rotary Performance wrote:
Fri Nov 01, 2019 4:49 pm
Too early to give anything concrete, its been a low priority project for a while however, if demand is high........
Digital aerial already installed and waiting to be used....also found a Panasonic antenna under the dash too, presume previous owner had a nice unit in it!
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Re: Metra kit, anything better?

Post by Scartlead » Fri Nov 01, 2019 6:13 pm

warpc0il wrote:
Fri Nov 01, 2019 4:54 pm
There was someone that stripped the board out of the oem headunit, fitted it in a plastic box and bolted up behind the fascia.
This was before Metra offered their "Climate Control option" and he was able to use the original "Manual A/C only" version, with the Climate Control still working as normal and a nice after-market double DIN audio system.

I can't find the thread and I suspect it's been long since purged by forum housekeeping
That’s an option, can you run the normal climate controls independently of a new doubledin?
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Re: Metra kit, anything better?

Post by Vj4sothername » Fri Nov 01, 2019 6:43 pm

Looking at the back of a facia I assume that the bottom middle connection sends the control input info to HVAC unit it's self with the connections on the left and right to out to the led display via the facia board. But I could/can be horribly wrong.

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Re: Metra kit, anything better?

Post by Mherby » Fri Nov 01, 2019 7:24 pm

Ryan Rotary Performance wrote:Too early to give anything concrete, its been a low priority project for a while however, if demand is high........
If it works as well as the rest of your products I'm definitely interested :)

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Re: Metra kit, anything better?

Post by Kellytm272 » Fri Nov 01, 2019 9:29 pm

My metra kit worked for a month and then the axxess box (metra computer) died. I read that you needed a particular version of the axxess box, that was updated and more reliable. Had the free replacement box and it’s worked fine since. Only downside is climate controls respond slower than the stock ac controls

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Re: Metra kit, anything better?

Post by poor_lackey » Mon Nov 04, 2019 7:32 am

Hi,

You can do it yourself if so inclined (a nice way of saying you need to be a little on the spectrum)
https://github.com/TonyChatfield/S1-RX8 ... controller

I haven't entirely stopped work on a dedicated improvement to this, but unfortunately there never seems to be enough time………
3 (or is it 4 processors later) I have a finished concept, but as the known market for it is currently 1 user only (me), it keeps being pushed to the bottom of the list.
As it stands; Centre console display driver, canbus, ½ dozen analog inputs, Bluetooth for pumping the OBD and massaged analog data into something like torque pro. SD card for logging and room for another Serial or SPI connection (maybe a GPS thingie if it makes your life complete).
Underpinned by an Arduino compatible interface, so easy to configure.
The initial controller was very responsive to the touch and the new processor is 3 times faster, so I don’t see that changing even with additional SD logging and\or gps. - I think that just means the commercial option is ^&%#$.

For the budget conscious
In the last few months I have also been playing with an alternate controller that runs via Bluetooth\an android phone app.
You would probably need to dedicate a phone, but who doesn’t have an older one lying about and the hardware costs for a diy solution should be under 25 quid +/- (minus the phone) - Mental note to self, add hazard control.
I have had this working on my desk with the app correctly controlling an A\C unit, but haven’t had time to sort pretty GUI\button controls and an a\c display.

If there is any interest, I'd be willing to try and find some time for a little more focus on 1 or both of them.
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Re: Metra kit, anything better?

Post by Juey » Tue Nov 05, 2019 4:12 pm

Budget conscious:
Dust off an old laptop and burn your playlists on to a CD.
Better still, put together your own compilation tape on a TDK c90 cassette.
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