Buying an R3

[Ainmhidh]

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I'd stake my reputation on that (whether that's worth anything or not remains to be seen! ).
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Is that your reputation for killing R3s Dan? (off topic, how's the mini-me side project going?)

[delta0]

Well, first rule of RX8club is don't believe anything written on RX8club... I'm kidding, obviously.

That said, you'll be hard pushed, given the number sold, to find an R3 with ~30k miles for sale with better compression. I'd stake my reputation on that (whether that's worth anything or not remains to be seen! ).

If I went to buy an RX8 and the comp results were even across faces/rotors, and the results started with a 6 (even a 6.0) I'd be happy putting my money in it. The consensus on RX8club that a low compression test (anything below a 6.8 by their standards) means your days are numbered are simply false and unhelpful. An engine running 6.1s across the board that is being properly maintained should still go on for ages - excluding random insta-kill fails like side seals, water jackets and so forth.

With the numbers that are for sale (R3s I mean) you can afford to be picky, but demanding something starting with a 7 is going to be a long old search that wastes time and benefits nothing.

FWIW, one of my engines had compression of 7.2s and the side seal went - there's no rhyme nor reason to these engines sometimes.

*cough* 41k with mid 7s here *cough*

[Ainmhidh]

Well, first rule of RX8club is don't believe anything written on RX8club... I'm kidding, obviously.

That said, you'll be hard pushed, given the number sold, to find an R3 with ~30k miles for sale with better compression. I'd stake my reputation on that (whether that's worth anything or not remains to be seen! ).

If I went to buy an RX8 and the comp results were even across faces/rotors, and the results started with a 6 (even a 6.0) I'd be happy putting my money in it. The consensus on RX8club that a low compression test (anything below a 6.8 by their standards) means your days are numbered are simply false and unhelpful. An engine running 6.1s across the board that is being properly maintained should still go on for ages - excluding random insta-kill fails like side seals, water jackets and so forth.

With the numbers that are for sale (R3s I mean) you can afford to be picky, but demanding something starting with a 7 is going to be a long old search that wastes time and benefits nothing.

FWIW, one of my engines had compression of 7.2s and the side seal went - there's no rhyme nor reason to these engines sometimes.

*cough* 41k with mid 7s here *cough*

Is your car for sale and on less than 35k miles?

My point was that there are seemingly only ever a handful of R3s for sale at any one time these days - maybe 10-15? discount a few of them as being high mileage or low compression and you'll struggle to find one that's for sale, in the 7s and low mileage.

I'm not saying that an R3 in the 7s is impossible, just that if you use that as your sole buying criteria then you'll be searching a long time and could end up with a car with a crusty rust-bucket chassis - which makes the engine in the 7s pointless.

@Alan - going really well thanks She's a cracker and last night slept for the WHOLE night by herself. The wife woke her up at 7am to check she wasn't dead or something!

[delta0]

Well, first rule of RX8club is don't believe anything written on RX8club... I'm kidding, obviously.

That said, you'll be hard pushed, given the number sold, to find an R3 with ~30k miles for sale with better compression. I'd stake my reputation on that (whether that's worth anything or not remains to be seen! ).

If I went to buy an RX8 and the comp results were even across faces/rotors, and the results started with a 6 (even a 6.0) I'd be happy putting my money in it. The consensus on RX8club that a low compression test (anything below a 6.8 by their standards) means your days are numbered are simply false and unhelpful. An engine running 6.1s across the board that is being properly maintained should still go on for ages - excluding random insta-kill fails like side seals, water jackets and so forth.

With the numbers that are for sale (R3s I mean) you can afford to be picky, but demanding something starting with a 7 is going to be a long old search that wastes time and benefits nothing.

FWIW, one of my engines had compression of 7.2s and the side seal went - there's no rhyme nor reason to these engines sometimes.

*cough* 41k with mid 7s here *cough*

Is your car for sale and on less than 35k miles?

My point was that there are seemingly only ever a handful of R3s for sale at any one time these days - maybe 10-15? discount a few of them as being high mileage or low compression and you'll struggle to find one that's for sale, in the 7s and low mileage.

I'm not saying that an R3 in the 7s is impossible, just that if you use that as your sole buying criteria then you'll be searching a long time and could end up with a car with a crusty rust-bucket chassis - which makes the engine in the 7s pointless.

@Alan - going really well thanks She's a cracker and last night slept for the WHOLE night by herself. The wife woke her up at 7am to check she wasn't dead or something!

It’s already a rare car so for sure limiting options further is going to make it nearly impossible to find one.

[ChrisHolmes]

AS the gazzumper didn't turn up why don't you drop your offer by £250 and tell him you will be over on Saturday to pick the car up.

[Honkytonk]

My car (admittedly a Series 1), is on 80k miles now with ~6's for compression on both rotors and still starts on the button every time. If RX8club are to be believed it blew up about 20-40k miles ago.

I'm sorry to hear about the seller messing you about. Buying cars can be an...interesting process.

[qwakers]

i know youre looking for a r3, but have you considered looking at a late s1?

viewtopic.php?f=145&t=80728

as a example/=?

[kopite72]

Check out the irish rotary FB page,there's a lovely white R3 popped up for sale,not looking for big money either....

[warpc0il]

What happens to VRT when a car is exported from ROI?

[kopite72]

That I have no clue but its well worth enquiring. Its a sweet car and all he wants is 3k ( euros?) which is an absolute steal for what looks like a mint car.

Regarding the VRT, I can't imagine a buyer from the UK is liable for it. As you know Dave the VRT is only applicable to a car being bought by a paddy from the UK

Link....

https://m.facebook.com/groups/129998773 ... 9122843041

[warpc0il]

Just wondering if someone gets a refund - but that would be too much to ask for...

[warpc0il]

Closed group, so...

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[kopite72]

It's a no brainer for me, lovely car with a RR rebuild for what is essentially 2600 pounds!!!!

Get on it!!

[New Duke]

EDIT: Gonna snip my own ramblings

Sorry this seller let you down Dan123. If you can be patient then a good R3 is worth the wait, no need to rush to buy a Series 1 unless you specifically want one of those.

[kopite72]

No worries Haydn,it's all good I hear what you're saying but a quick call to RR will verify the rebuild so that should take care of that.Regarding the worn pads,it is his daily as is mine and I wont lie but I've had pads changed on mine that were pretty close to what you'd deem to be the minimum,it's not like I purposely let them get that way its just that when she's your daily things tend to wear out a lot faster.

The paperwork or lack of would be an issue for me defo but a condition of sale would have to be a complete once over of the car ( inc a comp test ) by a reputable garage with the owner contributing to the cost,that seems fair to me.I still think it's well worth a punt ( once due diligence has been done ) for what is really small money for an R3

[Dr. FrankenRex]

RR have an office in Derbyshire?!

[warpc0il]

My guess is Birstall is 15 miles from the Derbyshire border, so pretty close, for a paddy

[Juey]

Not fancy the low mileage (28k) blue one on eBay & Autotrader in Tonbridge? Same price
Or the one in Cambridge being sold by a club member for under 5k ?? Sure it needs the air con putting back in, but that should be easy enough.

[New Duke]

Not fancy the low mileage (28k) blue one on eBay & Autotrader in Tonbridge? Same price
Or the one in Cambridge being sold by a club member for under 5k ?? Sure it needs the air con putting back in, but that should be easy enough.

Any idea how easy it is to refit the air con? It didn't say in the add spefically what he'd removed. Just he'd done a 'delete'.
I read that line in the ad and hoped he'd reinstall it himself or that may be a pig to sell given he won't accept offers. If I was negotiating with him I'd immediately deduct the parts and labour cost re the air con. Who wants to buy an RX8 missing air con except for people building competitive race cars?

Top tip for anyone selling to the general public: Get it as close to stock as possible, and don't say a price is non-negotiable if basic car features aren't functional.