misfiring , white smoke

[Ninja_Freak]

Hey OP, if you ever want to experience what a rotary is really like then PM any one of the people who have commented in this thread. I am 110% sure they will happily take you out for a spin to prove that your experience is not what it is like for everyone else.

[Dr. FrankenRex]

Do you mind my asking how much you paid for it btw?

[goodeggbob]

Apparently Lewis is unable to post directly on this thread, so this message has been sent with a request for me to post on his behalf.

I think it’s only fair to tell my side of the story as reading this is extremely upsetting and there are two sides to ever story. And a lot of what I have done for the customer has unfortunately been missed out .

I personally drove the car for 2 weeks before it was sold.
Brake pads were changed as I was it happy with them.
The car was sold for £2000
That’s an 06 rx8 with 7.1 bar even across both rotors in really good condition when it left here there was no problems with the car at all.

I got a call from the customer saying that there was a miss fire. Soon as I got off the phone a brand new set of Mazda coils where ordered.

The customer brought the car down to me on a Monday when the coils where meant to be in. But they didn’t turn up till Tuesday they where fitted with a new set of leads as well.

I messaged the customer to say car was all done and everything was 100% on the car.

I had no response for him until I got a letter saying he would like his money back as the car was not fit for purpose. If the car didn’t start or the engine let go then I would not have hesitated to give his money back but I was just a set of coils, unfortunately I can not predict when coils are going to let go.

I have only received one letter from him.
I have even said I am more that happy to sell the car for him for free.

I run a business but as all of my customers know it’s still more a hobby for me than anything else.

After paying for the new coils I have actually lost £100 in the car. I’m £100 out of pocket but I was still willing to fix the car and sell it for him.

For this reason I find some of these comments extremely unfair as I haven’t been able to give my say.

I’m very disappointed some would say my reputation is be washed away after all these years of business I have never let anyone down and never not helped my customers out.

There is a reason I haven’t renewed my membership and it’s for topics like this.
When a good comment goes up no one really replies to it. Soon as there is a bad one every one jumps on it.

Again I’m so disappointed.

The car is here all fixed ready to go.
You can come get the car or bring the logbook and I will be more than happy to sell it for you.

Lewis corps
Lcrotary
07738177996

[Dazza44]

Sounds reasonable to me, unfortunately people as a general are allways all over negative comments and not so quick to praise the positive such is live unfortunately.

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[Mpv2k3]

I do feel that it is harsh for a reputation that has taken time to build up can be tarnished by comments from only hearing one side of a story.

I have known Lewis for a few years now and I have taken my car to Lewis on a number of occasions and have always been happy with the work. Even when my car has developed a sudden issue and I just turn up to LcRotary without being booked in or any notice, Lewis has done his best to put my car up on the ramp to have a look and put my mind at rest.

Approximately three weeks before my annual trip to the nurburgring in April Lewis did a routine compression test which showed the compression in the rear chamber had drastically dropped although the car hadn't shown any noticeable signs.

I was left with the dilemma of my trip fast approaching and trackday and hotel fully paid for and no car. Lewis was able to fit my car in for a rebuild that week which gave me enough time to run it in before my trip and I'm very happy with how the car pulls with the large street port (turned out it was side seal failure)

Lewis has also recently moved to the new bigger premises, and construction work was also being completed within the garage when I was last there. Even with the work being constructed, I would never had said it was like a scrapyard, also bearing in mind when dealing with rotaries where new parts are no longer available, used parts are often stored.

If theres an issue, Lewis has always done what is best for the car and I'm sure that if there were any signs of an issue that these would've been fixed prior to any sale.

Overall, I will continue to use Lewis for any work and I would advice that people take into account that theres two side to every story and make your own judgement on experience. LcRotary have been around for some time now and one of the few rotary specialists still out there but, unfortunately people are only drawn to negative comments instead of the good experiences.

[New Duke]

Sounds reasonable to me, unfortunately people as a general are allways all over negative comments and not so quick to praise the positive such is live unfortunately.

It's never nice when someone has their feelings hurt. The statement didn't address key complaints that were raised though, like whether the OP asked to return the car within the 30 day window. If it was after that date (contrary to what the OP said) then it was still a requirement to fix the car which has now been done, matter resolved. So the profit (or lack of) comment isn't really relevant.

That's why I've been focusing in this thread on what we've been told actually happened. Not on how nice someone is or what the company premise looked like, because they're not relevant.

He also disputed the EML light being on when the car was viewed and how the repair was handled. Essentially saying that the OP has been lying. If that's the case then it's a shame and he can take that up with the OP. Customers who take his side will accept his version of events. Neither are club members so this is a spat between people outside the club.

If someone comes on here asking for help then we'd be pretty cold to blanket assume they're lying and refuse them advice on the basis of the other party boycotting this forum and therefore not having their say. Surely you have to assume that people come on here telling the truth, but if they don't then as a forum others have the opportunity to have their say in opposition.

A bit spiteful of him saying people making comments is why he won't come back to the club though. If LC Rotary was still a Trader then he'd get the benefit of the doubt and the deference we show to all traders/other members on here. Hopefully the OC admins can fix whatever prevented LC from posting so he/the company can choose to engage again.

[Dazza44]

Not sure as to why you quoted my post,I was not directing my post at you at all,I was merely generalizing.

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[cat_nipples]

All I'm gonna say what its been quoted by warpc0il isn't true at all , but I dont think there is point for me to argue it since it looks like its going to SCC so they will decide. We can speculate what actually happened as much as we want.

Only thing is that all letters that were received has been signed i just checked that.

''And a lot of what I have done for the customer has unfortunately been missed out'' - don't know what means.

[Ninja_Freak]

Hi there, you didn't mention anything about the outcome of your encounter with LC. Did you produce the warranty certificate and service history since rebuild,and was the warranty still in force. If the above points are a yes,then why did you go to an independant garage.

For a number of reasons, following the initial conversation I was put off. The very first response, without asking me for any details or information was "the laptop" (as above) was the reason that really put me off. Secondly, I bought the car "third hand" therefore impossible to prove / detail maintenance to the car prior to my purchase. Thirdly, after the initial response, I held little hope that successive trips to LC would be worth even the petrol.

What was unfortunately damning was the comments about the quality of the work done.

[warpc0il]

Locking thread at the request of the OP.



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[warpc0il]

Unlocking for an update from the OP.
Note that the Committee has been informed as to the outcome and will be discussing whether LC Rotary should continue to be listed on this forum as Rotary Specialists.

[Dazza44]

I guess by the above it wasn't a very positive outcome for the OP,which if is the case,that's a shame.

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[cat_nipples]

Hello ,

I wanted to say thank you to anyone who gave some advice on legal proceedings. It took a while and the company never responded to anything.
I will attach the judgement copy with my details blanked out , there will be a warrant issued today on his name & company name as well. Hopefully at some point I will see my money , due to it can be dragged out for about 5-6 months before I can get a writ to freeze his bank account if he doesn't pay.

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[Dazza44]

That's good well not good but looks like u get it money back and that's something.

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[13Black]

I am reliably informed that LC Rotary / LC Motorsports is "no more" as a company ... no idea how this affects the OP but I suppose that makes the decision to "de-list" them as rotary specialists on the forum a bit easier?

[Eddie_r32]

Yea I don't think you will be getting anything if the company has been wound up. Chasing it, will more than likely be a waste of time and effort. If you have a rx8 with 7.1 comp and new Oem coils and leads for 2k you have done ok

[cat_nipples]

I am reliably informed that LC Rotary / LC Motorsports is "no more" as a company ... no idea how this affects the OP but I suppose that makes the decision to "de-list" them as rotary specialists on the forum a bit easier?

Uhh , that might not turn out very well.

@Eddie_r32

I have nothing , neither the car or the money.

[New Duke]

I am reliably informed that LC Rotary / LC Motorsports is "no more" as a company ... no idea how this affects the OP but I suppose that makes the decision to "de-list" them as rotary specialists on the forum a bit easier?

Uhh , that might not turn out very well.

@Eddie_r32

I have nothing , neither the car or the money.

Sorry he's treated you like this and the nightmare it put you in.

To clarify LC Rotary has applied to be struck of the register, but it is recent and hasn't taken effect yet. That window is there specifically to allow claims against the company by creditors.
LC Motorsport is still trading from a legal point of view, and you bought the car from LC Motorsport. There was a split at LC and some guys went off to form The Performance Shop but there'll be a trail to follow if your bailiffs are competent. Either at TPS or at LC where assets will either still be there or will being moved out of the company... again there will be a trail. Those assets are somewhere and are now yours up to the value of the judgement.

As mentioned before, contrary to popular belief about the liability of Limited companies, you can take legal action against Lewis personally. Especially if his company 'magically' has no assets now (and have likely been transferred to a friends company or him personally). But you'll need a solicitor to go into the detail. Many will review a case and give you advice on whether to pursue it for free. I'd also suggest contacting Companies House to ensure that he is blocked from ever being an officer of another company, they have a process for that.

(What's really disappointing is that there are people in this club who know him personally and have kept quiet)

[cat_nipples]

I am reliably informed that LC Rotary / LC Motorsports is "no more" as a company ... no idea how this affects the OP but I suppose that makes the decision to "de-list" them as rotary specialists on the forum a bit easier?

Uhh , that might not turn out very well.

@Eddie_r32

I have nothing , neither the car or the money.

Sorry he's treated you like this and the nightmare it put you in.

To clarify LC Rotary has applied to be struck of the register, but it is recent and hasn't taken effect yet. That window is there specifically to allow claims against the company by creditors.
LC Motorsport is still trading from a legal point of view, and you bought the car from LC Motorsport. There was a split at LC and some guys went off to form The Performance Shop but there'll be a trail to follow if your bailiffs are competent. Either at TPS or at LC where assets will either still be there or will being moved out of the company... again there will be a trail. Those assets are somewhere and are now yours up to the value of the judgement.

As mentioned before, contrary to popular belief about the liability of Limited companies, you can take legal action against Lewis personally. Especially if his company 'magically' has no assets now (and have likely been transferred to a friends company or him personally). But you'll need a solicitor to go into the detail. Many will review a case and give you advice on whether to pursue it for free. I'd also suggest contacting Companies House to ensure that he is blocked from ever being an officer of another company, they have a process for that.

(What's really disappointing is that there are people in this club who know him personally and have kept quiet)

The TPS has the same service address as LC Rotary & LC Motorsport , so if the warrant wont be satisfied I will have to get the High Court Order and as far as I understood from the advisor they will consider removing goods of TPS as well if they have to. So if anyone knows that company might give them a shout to make sure their paperwork or anything isn't tied to LC.

I was actually e-mailed by someone who submit a claim against Lewis for 6000 , and its currently pending. I don't think he can legally share details until he gets a judgment. And he is a member here as well.

[Eddie_r32]

Has Lewis offered you the car back if so take it.

[The Performance Shop]

We’ve become aware of a number of posts regarding events at LC Rotary and LC Motorsports and their relationship with The Performance Shop Limited. We’d like to take this opportunity to clarify the position.
 
5 years ago “LC Rotary Sales” started and had a marketing arrangement with LC Rotary, which allowed LC Rotary Sales to use their brand to market the sale of cars and rotary car parts. Our businesses have always been completely separate, in terms of directors, shareholding and finances. 
 
As our sales business grew, we made a decision to move away from LC Rotary and to launch our own brand, The Performance Shop Limited, since this launch 14 months ago, we’ve continued to grow and extend our operations in Orpington, Kent.
 
At the beginning of this year, LC Rotary moved from their premises in Orpington and started trading as LC Motorsport Limited in Swanscombe, Kent. 
 
In the last 3-4 months, it would appear there have been a number of issues with LC Motorsport, with some posts suggesting TPS is in some way involved. You’ll appreciate that it would be wrong for us to comment on this, other than to make it clear that we have no relationship with LC Motorsport Limited/LC Rotary other than to provide parts and services to them.
 
If you remain unclear as to our position, or would like to know more about The Performance Shop Limited, please don’t hesitate to contact us.

Reece Sherwood
Director
The Performance Shop Limited
01959 533403
07590 056661

[SprintRX8]

LC Rotary
Lewis Corps
Company was Dissolved on 25th February 2014.

LC Motorsport Ltd
Lewis Corps.

The Performance Shop
Reece Sherwood.

Strangely both LC Motorsport and The Performance Shop
Share the same Correspondence Address

Info from Company House

[Ainmhidh]

We know they were both originally in the same/ neighbouring premises, but looking at the CH details you can see they have different directors, and the LC Motorsport website states that they have moved recently, so the companies house records may just not have been updated with a new registered address for one of many reasons.
As Reece says above - they are separate businesses, so should be considered as such.

[SprintRX8]

Thanks for clearing that up.

It would appear both Company’s used the same agent to register there Business
Hence the same address..

[The Performance Shop]

Hi
Yes we both used the same accounts hence the same address, as stated above we are 2 separate business and have a separate company house and vat number and even use different people at the accountants.