Clutches (5speed vs 6speed)

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Clutches (5speed vs 6speed)

Post by Dockie » Sun Nov 25, 2018 9:30 pm

so it seems that after only 5k miles, the clutch has gone :x

looking at replacements (mainly the exedy one) there are 2 listed, 5speed and 6speed (192/231 i assume)
besides the price, is there actually any difference in the two?

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Re: Clutches (5speed vs 6speed)

Post by qwakers » Sun Nov 25, 2018 9:36 pm

yes.

that is all :D

a 5 speed clutch will not fit a 6 speed or vice versa.

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Re: Clutches (5speed vs 6speed)

Post by acegeezer » Sun Nov 25, 2018 9:39 pm

..erm one is for a 5 speed box and the other a 6 :lol: .. what did you think? :rofl: .. sorry couldn't resist, only joking though :)
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Re: Clutches (5speed vs 6speed)

Post by Dockie » Sun Nov 25, 2018 9:53 pm

acegeezer wrote:
Sun Nov 25, 2018 9:39 pm
what did you think? :rofl:
I get that they're listed as such :lol: however i've found in alot of cases its the same thing under a different part number.

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Re: Clutches (5speed vs 6speed)

Post by 13Black » Sun Nov 25, 2018 10:00 pm

Different bolt PCDs and sizes - if you can get one to fit the other then I'll lick your gearbox clean.
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Re: Clutches (5speed vs 6speed)

Post by Dockie » Sun Nov 25, 2018 10:02 pm

13Black wrote:
Sun Nov 25, 2018 10:00 pm
Different bolt PCDs and sizes - if you can get one to fit the other then I'll lick your gearbox clean.
Thanks, thats what i was looking for :thumright:

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Re: Clutches (5speed vs 6speed)

Post by warpc0il » Sun Nov 25, 2018 10:02 pm

I've only even seen RX8 parts listed as different for the 192 and 231 where they're actually different parts.

However the opposite is true, where manufacturers/suppliers list the same part for both models, when they should be different.

For example, listing the same front lambda sensor for the 192/231.
or listing the same oil filter for the S1 & S2(R3)
or the same suspension spring for all models, including standard S1, PZ, 40th Anniversary and R3.

BTW I believe it is possible to fit a 192 clutch to a 231 and vice-versa, if you also change the flywheel as well, plus the counterweight (if none OEM), but there's usually no advantage.
The only exception is if you've highly tuned (e.g. fitted a turbo to) your 192 and need an uprated clutch that's only available in the 231 fitment.

192 clutches don't last long trying to manage the output of a 231.
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Re: Clutches (5speed vs 6speed)

Post by Scartlead » Mon Nov 26, 2018 5:51 pm

Even though a 192 has more torque..apparently :)
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Re: Clutches (5speed vs 6speed)

Post by Bullet5 » Mon Nov 26, 2018 5:57 pm

warpc0il wrote:
Sun Nov 25, 2018 10:02 pm
BTW I believe it is possible to fit a 192 clutch to a 231 and vice-versa, if you also change the flywheel as well, plus the counterweight (if none OEM), but there's usually no advantage.
The only exception is if you've highly tuned (e.g. fitted a turbo to) your 192 and need an uprated clutch that's only available in the 231 fitment.

192 clutches don't last long trying to manage the output of a 231.
I'm virtually certain this is correct, as when mine disintegrated I had a CC lightweight flywheel (and counterweight) fitted along side a 231 clutch in my 192 Nemesis for that little extra longevity and bite that comes with a larger diameter unit (very marginal, and I'm sure nobody would notice the difference but every little helps). :)

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Re: Clutches (5speed vs 6speed)

Post by mrspiller » Tue Nov 27, 2018 8:58 am

I fitted a 5 speed 192 box on my 231 ,


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