Racing Beat or Whiteline Performance Anti-roll bars?

[plas87]

Hi,

Looking to upgrade the anti-roll bars on my 2006 PZ. Not sure whether I should go for the Racing Beats or Whiteline Performance or if I need the front or rear ones? I just want to reduce body roll when going around corners. Can the R3 anti-roll bars be fitted on the PZ and will it make a noticeable difference like the Racing Beats or Whiteline performance ones?

Does anyone have a used set I can buy?

[StreetDragster]

Racing Beat are hollow and therefore lighter

But whiteline are adjustable

That's the major differences

Matt

[Eddie_r32]

The adjustability is a nice feature to have also replace both I did rear first as coming from Nissan's that's good enough but upsets the 8's handling in a strange unsettling way!

[warpc0il]

You need to do both at the same time, otherwise you can get nasty effects.

The last set of Racing Beats that I fitted came with adjustable drop links, but these are more about keeping the angles at an ideal 90 degress, depending on your ride-height, rather than being able to adjust the stiffness.

[plas87]

Does it actually make a noticeable difference compared to stock? I.e. way less body roll and flat lines through corners?

[Markl17]

Hi I have rb anti roll bars lot less body roll on turn in,no down side except price,for me best mod for the money.
Mark

[warpc0il]

The RB bars made a big difference on mine with the original springs.

Now running with Eibach ProSport springs and not able to judge how much of the overall difference is down to the arbs.

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[350matt]

doesn't the ride quality suffer with a stiffer ARB?

[Markl17]

I ran them with stock suspension for me ride quality was the same.

[Torque23]

It's slightly less compliant to asymmetric loads, e.g. when one wheel hits a bump, but makes no difference when both wheels hit a bump.

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[untakenname]

I've got the whitline arb front and rear and noticed the difference.
I was using adjustable droplinks but changed over to the stock ones as adjustable ones made the car clunk.

[AdamGaltress]

I have a set of whiteline ARBs for sale

[tayfun]

Not sure if the rear ARB made that because went from lowering springs to coilovers and changed my rear 231 ARB to R3's and now car hardly go sideways and feels more like go kart

[ChrisHolmes]

I fitted Whiteline front and rear and body roll now is imperceptible. If your bothered about weight then go for RB if it's price then buy Adams ARBs. Performance wise then for the majority of owners the two will be equal.

[Conan]

The first question of course would be the reletive strengths of the two options.
Pete

[ChrisHolmes]

@plas87 How old (how many miles) is your PZ suspension?
Dampers wear and springs sag or even break.
The PZ dampers are rebuildable.

The point I'm getting at is, unless you're sure that the suspension is working as originally designed, it would be foolish to change another component to try and compensate for could be a maintenance issue. Would you buy a longer dipstick if the engine oil was reading low?

If you're sure that the suspension is fully up-to-spec then I'm surprised that you find the PZ body roll a problem, particularly on the road.

[Conan]

OK perhaps that was the first question ( what Warpc0il said ) and mine was the second
I too am surprised you find PZ suspension rolls too much for you.
People tend to forget that some movement is necessary.
Pete

[Dr. FrankenRex]

In answer to the other part of your query, R3 bars can be fitted to an S1 no problem. The improvement will be minimal, though they are stiffer than the S1.

[ChrisHolmes]

The first question of course would be the reletive strengths of the two options.
Pete

By strength are you referring to the roll resistance or the strength of hollow versus solid construction.

[plas87]

@plas87 How old (how many miles) is your PZ suspension?
Dampers wear and springs sag or even break.
The PZ dampers are rebuildable.

The point I'm getting at is, unless you're sure that the suspension is working as originally designed, it would be foolish to change another component to try and compensate for could be a maintenance issue. Would you buy a longer dipstick if the engine oil was reading low?

If you're sure that the suspension is fully up-to-spec then I'm surprised that you find the PZ body roll a problem, particularly on the road.

Sorry to revive an old thread, but how does one exactly go about rebuilding the PZ dampers?

[warpc0il]

That's not a diy job as the parts aren't obtainable.

However Bilstein offer a rebuild service.

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[plas87]

That's not a diy job as the parts aren't obtainable.

However Bilstein offer a rebuild service.

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Thanks. I assume Bilstein will still have the parts in order to rebuild my dampers?

[warpc0il]

Ask them
https://www.bilstein.com/uk/en/about-us ... d-contact/

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[Dr. FrankenRex]

I may well be wrong, but I believe the internals are standard parts, it's the outsides - most specifically the spring seats - which are unique to the PZ; as such I would imagine you'd be OK. As said by Dave, though, asking them direct is the best idea

[warpc0il]

Most damper manufacturers are very wary who they sell internal parts to. I've not had this discussion with Bilstien but Koni and Ohlins will only supply to their authorised dealers.

There were some Ohlins rebuild kits on ebay for a while but these turned out to be fakes.

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