pump or sump?

[Wood73]

I'm going to change the oil today, and wondering if an oil pump that goes down the dipstick is ok to use on these engines?
Or is it best to take out the sump plug?

[Dazza44]

Alot of people use the pela pump no problem with that

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[Wood73]

great that'll save me crawling on my back!

[CTID]

Whichever way you decide to do it don't forget that a lot of the oil will remain in the oil coolers and pipework leading in and out of them and won't get extracted. A lot of the DIY people on here do an initial change then another after some driving round so the old and new oil get chance to mix and there should be about 50% less unchanged oil left in the engine. I've generally used garages and just done it the once with no issues but food for thought.

[New Duke]

Whichever way you decide to do it don't forget that a lot of the oil will remain in the oil coolers and pipework leading in and out of them and won't get extracted. A lot of the DIY people on here do an initial change then another after some driving round so the old and new oil get chance to mix and there should be about 50% less unchanged oil left in the engine. I've generally used garages and just done it the once with no issues but food for thought.

Especially if you've recently received the car and can't be sure what grade of oil is in there or when it was last changed. Then getting as much fresh stuff in there as poss is good.

Hope you changed the oil filter as well wood?

[wiggles]

Having just changed my oil cooler lines I can confirm there is a lot of oil that doesn't come out of the sump... It goes everywhere

[Aido 8]

You dont need to go crawling on your back, turn the steering wheel to the left, get your socket on a extension (if need be) then reach in from drivers side and undo your sump plug, then to get that little bit of extra oil out just jack it up from the passenger side

[Wood73]

Well i sucked it out, got about 4 litres out, i know the chap who had it before hadnt long changed the oil with 5w30, ive replaced it with 10w40 semi and will do it again next week.

[obakemono]

I'm wondering if anyone has ever considered putting a drain plug on the coolers to completely empty them.

[qwakers]

you could tap the banjos and fit a bolt in which you could undo to drain... i considered it, but cant be bothered.

[warpc0il]

It's possible to crack open the hose connections to drain the coolers, as Phil proved a while ago, but there's a risk of introducing leaks, as there would be with addition drain plugs. You'd also have to consider the risk of introducing trapped air.

Why bother when the oil is so cheap and a double-change does the job?