What to do if Rx stalls when it's cold

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Re: What to do if Rx stalls when it's cold

Post by GreySilver Beast » Tue Oct 19, 2010 8:06 pm

Battery should be ok,as it was New this year :roll:

When the car is serviced next month,they will be doing a Hot & Cold Compression Test on the car in anycase :!: ,also they will be changing the Brake Pad's Brake Disc's aswell :P
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Re: What to do if Rx stalls when it's cold

Post by Will66 » Tue Oct 19, 2010 8:21 pm

The brake pads and discs then Nigel. :lol:
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Re: What to do if Rx stalls when it's cold

Post by mikejenkins » Tue Oct 19, 2010 8:49 pm

If you stall it when it's cold just start it again. It only floods if you turn off a cold engine and leave it for a period of time (unknown).

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Re: What to do if Rx stalls when it's cold

Post by VelocityVinnie » Tue Oct 19, 2010 9:25 pm

Nope it can still flood when you stall it if its REALLY cold! as like said the cold start dumps more fuel into the engine (2500rpm) so stalling it, and then trying to restart could flood the engine.

Although why you should stall it is beyond me! and if your worried about stalling your car, or think you will, then you need to take your car out and learn some clutch control!

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Re: What to do if Rx stalls when it's cold

Post by GreySilver Beast » Tue Oct 19, 2010 10:02 pm

...........................or buy a Automatic :lol:
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Re: What to do if Rx stalls when it's cold

Post by mikejenkins » Tue Oct 19, 2010 10:31 pm

My wife stalls my Rex Frequently when she drives it as she normally drives an auto, and across 2 rx8s (including one with a slow starter, shot coils and hot start problems) a stall has never resulted in a flood.

I wait 10 seconds before driving off, waiting for it to warm up fully when stationary would take ages and upset my neighbours.

So according to my experience, my response to the OP is not to worry about it.

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Re: What to do if Rx stalls when it's cold

Post by Matt Shepherd » Fri Oct 22, 2010 7:56 am

I nearly died of embaressment. Barring the first day i drove the car - i had never stalled it, or even came close to it for that matter. However 2 weeks ago at work i was walking back to my car after finishing work , (i always walk to the car slower if ive got the 8 instead of the punto to prolong the viewing time of her :D) when i noticed some hot little admin biatch and her mate coming out the opposite building. So i jump in stacey, turn the key 2 clicks, she started wonderfully just as the girls walked by (and had a right good stare in the cockpit :D) then i driv her forward and turn to come out the car park, which now brings me in perfect view of 4 very fine nut crackingly tight butt cheeks. However disaster strikes, my foot slipps completly off the clutch and she stalls right on the spot :(

Aside from my ego taking an enormous kick'in, i started her up again post haste :D (then it suddenly dawned on me what id done) I was sooo thankful she didnt flood, the embaressment of stalling her and the girls noticing was bad enough - but if stacey had wet herself in the middle of my works car park...im not sure what i would have done :D
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Re: What to do if Rx stalls when it's cold

Post by Will66 » Fri Oct 22, 2010 12:06 pm

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Re: What to do if Rx stalls when it's cold

Post by Elektix » Fri Oct 22, 2010 12:18 pm

Any women solely interested in you because of your car is in no way a 'keeper'. I do enjoy noticing people look at me though as I drive past and the female interest is always good for the ego though :lol:

I stand out more and more as more and more people buy utter eco crap and insist on driving near me on the roads :roll: :lol:

I love my 20mpg and subjective realiability as I actually enjoy driving unlike some muppets who fill up the roads.....

Why has no body capatilised on people like us? You could build a road in the middle of no where, almost akin to a track, but classed as a road....... kind of like the nurburgring? put food vendors in 'pitstop' style laybys, and pay to drive on it like a toll road, no speed limit and an 'advised speed limit' :lol: Those acting like knobs (thinking there in the BTCC) could just be banned, prosecuted under dangerous driving? etc etc.

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Re: What to do if Rx stalls when it's cold

Post by takerhandy » Fri Oct 22, 2010 3:24 pm

The manual actually advises to start the car and drive off. It's actually illegal to let your car warm up in the driveway in Germany! (Emissions/environment)
You don't want to stall any car cold, you've just put a huge strain on a cold battery and that's something you don't want to repeat. RX-8's flooding issue just knocks that point home. It is very hard to stall when cold as well though, all you can do is keep the revs up (within reason) and the car pretty much does that for you anyway!

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Re: What to do if Rx stalls when it's cold

Post by The Rookie » Tue Nov 09, 2010 12:42 pm

Flooding is not usually an immediate problem, its leaving it long enough for the fuel to start to evaporate that then causes 'flooding' (liquid fuel plus the air displaced by fuel vapour), so stalling and an immediate restart is unlikely to cause a problem.

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Re: What to do if Rx stalls when it's cold

Post by RX8fun » Tue Nov 09, 2010 1:24 pm

I'm with Matt on this one, the only time I have ever stalled my car was the day I bought it and drove it away. I just didn't put enough revs in and luckily it was up to temp. From that experience for the few people I have let drive my car I have always made sure it was warm just in case they make the same mistake. I wouldn't say the RX is in any way a difficult car to drive but you have to be aware that it is higher revving and unless you want to stall/kangaroo just keep the revs up. Mine pulls away quietly and neatly @ 1500-2000rpm. Everybody makes driving mistakes occasionally but if stalling is a big problem I would suggest clutch adjustment if necessary as I have done on mine as I had excessive play.

With regard to the law is another problem, if I drive to the local shops/cashpoint I have to leave it with the engine running whilst using the cashpoint which is illegal but if God wanted me to walk everywhere he wouldn't have created wheels!!

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Re: What to do if Rx stalls when it's cold

Post by desert_ratfaced » Sun Nov 14, 2010 10:51 am

I occasionally stall mine from cold :oops: If I restart immediately, it fires up no problem. It's only flooded twice (to my knowledge), both times when the memsahib started it up from cold, moved it a few metres then shutdown & left it! #-o
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Re: What to do if Rx stalls when it's cold

Post by Doddy » Sun Nov 14, 2010 3:29 pm

RX8fun wrote: With regard to the law is another problem, if I drive to the local shops/cashpoint I have to leave it with the engine running whilst using the cashpoint which is illegal but if God wanted me to walk everywhere he wouldn't have created wheels!!
Eek, not only illegal, but a very very tempting run-about for any opportunist thief, and bang goes any insurance cover.

That's where the 4k shutdown comes in (the engine must be getting somewhere close to temperature anyway unless you live literally next door to the shop).

Plus, if you're looking for any sort of justification a 4k shutdown sounds pretty cool. :wink:

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Re: What to do if Rx stalls when it's cold

Post by RX8fun » Sun Nov 14, 2010 3:39 pm

I normally walk to the shop but if I am on my way to somewhere and have to stop there first then yes I do leave it parked and running about 5 metres behind me (never further than that and I watch it like a hawk). I would rather leave it running than risk a cold shut down and flooding.

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Re: What to do if Rx stalls when it's cold

Post by Shagrington » Sun Nov 14, 2010 4:50 pm

I'd leave 5 minutes earlier and just take a 2 mile detour to get it closer to being warmed up rather than leave it running.
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Re: What to do if Rx stalls when it's cold

Post by RX8fun » Sun Nov 14, 2010 9:28 pm

In an ideal world I would do that but when time is money I grab my car and go. If there is another vehicle available to me I take that instead of the RX but sometimes that isn't always the case. At this time of year I am fighting the earlier darkness to get to places where I need daylight to do things so it's a constant battle for me. My worst nightmare is flooding my car and not getting to where I need to be. I would never leave my engine running and leave the car unattended (because that's illegal and asking for trouble) but I am less than 5 metres from it as it's warming up.

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Re: What to do if Rx stalls when it's cold

Post by Manic Mechanic » Sun Nov 14, 2010 10:45 pm

Carry a spare key (doesn't need to be a pukka immobiliser equipped one) and lock the door if you absolutely have to do this.
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Re: What to do if Rx stalls when it's cold

Post by RX8fun » Sun Nov 14, 2010 11:02 pm

Good idea, ty.

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Re: What to do if Rx stalls when it's cold

Post by Punk » Tue Mar 27, 2012 8:33 pm

ok,so what would people suggest is long enough to keep the car running ( idle ) to get it up to temp? say a mile drive and 5 - 10 mins idle? cus thats what i do if i have to swap cars around on the drive ....
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Re: What to do if Rx stalls when it's cold

Post by tractorboy » Tue Mar 27, 2012 11:19 pm

1. Until the temp gauge gets to the first tick.
2. Until the revs drop to 1000rpm.
3. Until the temp gauge is at normal.
4. Until the temp is at 35 degrees.
5. Until the temp is at 60 degrees.
7. Until the secondary air pump stops running.

I have seen all these suggested at various times here. A mile drive on its own is certainly enough.

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Re: What to do if Rx stalls when it's cold

Post by Will66 » Tue Mar 27, 2012 11:28 pm

If you're looking to avoid it flooding then 1 mile is generally fine unless it's very cold, if you're looking to use most of the revs and power then you need about 15 minutes of use to get everything warmed up. I hardly ever use mine for short trips and most of the time I'm heading along a dual carriageway, the A14, for the initial part of the journey. My general practise is to stay below 4000 rpm until I've either gone past the A11's southbound junction if I'm heading west, or Stowmarket if I am heading east. It's over 15 miles in either direction from where I join the dual carriageway so it's at least 15 minutes running in either direction, plus whatever I do to get to the A14 so it's fully warm.
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Re: What to do if Rx stalls when it's cold

Post by Punk » Wed Mar 28, 2012 12:23 am

I don't drive much tbh, Everything is within walking distance but i am constantly having to move cars around, so it's good to know. Im booked in with hurleys for a compression test on tuesday, does anybody know if we get a OC discount?
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Re: What to do if Rx stalls when it's cold

Post by Will66 » Wed Mar 28, 2012 8:57 am

I think we do but I'm not sure. Worth an ask though.
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Re: What to do if Rx stalls when it's cold

Post by ralferoo » Mon Sep 16, 2013 11:54 pm

With regards to the OP, I think I've stalled maybe 3 or 4 times in the 4 years I've had the car, always when cold and usually just because I've slightly misjudged the biting point when getting out of a parking spot. I've almost immediately restarted the engine and never had an issue.

I think in general the RX8 is very generous on stalling. I've definitely almost stalled once or twice (lights on the dash come on) and just shoved the clutch in and it's recovered even though any other car would have stalled by then. In general this was just trying to go too slowly in slow moving traffic as the RX8 doesn't really like anything below about 2-3mph unless you're accelerating from rest.

In terms of deliberately driving some where and then turning off the engine, there's not really any call for it. If you're actually driving somewhere, unless it's the dead of winter it'll be up to temperature after a mile or about 2 minutes. On occasion I've popped to the post office (which is about half a mile away) on the way somewhere else and done the 10 seconds of 4k revs trick, although I don't really like doing that just because passers by look at you like you're some kind of hooligan out to make as much noise as possible. :D

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