MOT Warnings
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MOT Warnings
It has been reported that a few owners have elected to have their MOT done at the time of their third service due at the end of three years ownership.
Unfortunately it has been found, upon completion of the MOT, that there were items requiring replacement, but with the warranty having expired these then became expensive chargeable items.
In light of this it would be prudent to have your MOT carried out a couple of weeks before the end of the three year term and the end of the warranty. At least one of these replacements was for the catalyst at around £1000. Errr!!!! slight error here it transpires that with the ancillary sensors etc. the cost is nearer £2k
I know a number of owners have already recommended this course of action, but this is just by way of warning.
edited to correct pricing error 05/12/06
Unfortunately it has been found, upon completion of the MOT, that there were items requiring replacement, but with the warranty having expired these then became expensive chargeable items.
In light of this it would be prudent to have your MOT carried out a couple of weeks before the end of the three year term and the end of the warranty. At least one of these replacements was for the catalyst at around £1000. Errr!!!! slight error here it transpires that with the ancillary sensors etc. the cost is nearer £2k
I know a number of owners have already recommended this course of action, but this is just by way of warning.
edited to correct pricing error 05/12/06
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Might be stating the obvious but you can have an MOT done anytime. Standard practice for Ford motability is to have the lease car mot'd 3 months before three years lease was up to make sure any work required could be done before the car was returned. So no need to cut it as tight as a couple of weeks unless the thought of giving up the MOT fee two or three months early for the rest of the car's life causes too much distress.....
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Hi All,
You may be interested to know that if your car fails on the emissions it may not mean that the cat needs renewing.
We know that quite a few RX-8's have gone away for the day and driven around with our "cat cleaner" in the tank and then passed the test O/K, whilst this may not work for every car it sure is worth a try before spending silly money on a replacement cat
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It also has the advantage of being a good service tool as well because it cleans out carbon from the inside of your engine as well which is really not healthy inside a rotary engine
Hope this helps
You may be interested to know that if your car fails on the emissions it may not mean that the cat needs renewing.
We know that quite a few RX-8's have gone away for the day and driven around with our "cat cleaner" in the tank and then passed the test O/K, whilst this may not work for every car it sure is worth a try before spending silly money on a replacement cat
You can buy it here,
http://www.ekmpowershop3.com/ekmps/shop ... &catid=308
It also has the advantage of being a good service tool as well because it cleans out carbon from the inside of your engine as well which is really not healthy inside a rotary engine
Hope this helps
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Re: Why 26.73% of RX8s first registered in 2005 failed their
Passes 74 (73.27%) Failures 27 (26.73%)
Failed on Times Failed % of Failures
Tires 15 31.90%
Brakes 10 21.28%
Drivers view Road 6 12.77%
Lighting & signaling 6 12.77%
Suspension 4 8.51%
Plates & VIN 3 6.38%
Fuel & exhaust 2 4.26%
Body & structure 1 2.13%
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Failed on Times Failed % of Failures
Tires 15 31.90%
Brakes 10 21.28%
Drivers view Road 6 12.77%
Lighting & signaling 6 12.77%
Suspension 4 8.51%
Plates & VIN 3 6.38%
Fuel & exhaust 2 4.26%
Body & structure 1 2.13%
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Re: MOT Warnings
warpc0il wrote:Are those stats for the RX-8 specifically or all vehicles?
The RX8 specifically according to the statistical heading cited.
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Re: MOT Warnings
The facts may have taken off vertically as they went over the alps via a dodgy internet line.
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Re: MOT Warnings
To update this, now if your car fails an MOT then its existing one is invalidated regardless of when you have it done.
The concession for an MOT in the month prior to the existing one’s expiry date relates only to the expiry date of a new MOT.
Hence the pre-MOT checks offered by many garages.
And, yes, people have been prosecuted for driving between the test failure and existing MOT certificate’s date. I’m seeing more of these prosecutions in The Surrey Mirror - looking at the Court lists helps me know which speed cameras are active - because now an MOT test failure is automatically added to the Police’s ANPR database.
And it will invalidate your insurance, except, of course, driving to and from an MOT test.
The concession for an MOT in the month prior to the existing one’s expiry date relates only to the expiry date of a new MOT.
Hence the pre-MOT checks offered by many garages.
And, yes, people have been prosecuted for driving between the test failure and existing MOT certificate’s date. I’m seeing more of these prosecutions in The Surrey Mirror - looking at the Court lists helps me know which speed cameras are active - because now an MOT test failure is automatically added to the Police’s ANPR database.
And it will invalidate your insurance, except, of course, driving to and from an MOT test.
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Re: MOT Warnings
Ian, have you got a link to the updated legislation? The gov.uk site still indicates that a vehicle with an existing MOT can be driven after a refusal (subject to roadworthiness), and does not say the existing certificate is automatically invalidated.
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Re: MOT Warnings
Hmm, isn't the point of the MOT to determine the vehicle's roadworthiness? If it fails that, it isn't roadworthy?
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Re: MOT Warnings
Say your car fails on a passenger seatbelt being damaged, you could still safely drive it without a passenger or things like that would be the exception.
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Re: MOT Warnings
Also, failed for the spare tyre being flat - would that deem the car not roadworthy? The point here is not about being stopped and your vehicle being found to be defective, but the automatic expiration of a valid MOT certificate on failure to issue a new one
EDIT - ignore the spare tyre bit, not part of the test
EDIT - ignore the spare tyre bit, not part of the test
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Re: MOT Warnings
Years ago my old Omega failed on a corroded rear brake line with a week or two left on the current certificate. When I got home and checked the line, it was simply dirt and grime that had collected around a frayed part of plastic sleeve. I brushed it off and continued to drive it for a few days until the next retest slot was available on which it passed, still before the expiration of the existing certificate.
During this time, regardless of the current certificate becoming invalid question, the car was roadworthy but had been refused a certificate - so you could say that one does not necessarily mean the other.
During this time, regardless of the current certificate becoming invalid question, the car was roadworthy but had been refused a certificate - so you could say that one does not necessarily mean the other.
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Re: MOT Warnings
You could drive in the past, you can’t now.
Read eg this in Autoexpress magazine..
Check the dates of what you find Googling. The law has changed.
That wording on taking away means that, if your old MOT hasn’t already expired, you can take a failed car away to a place such as home that is not a Repairer or new MOT. You can then not drive it except to repair or MOT. If your old MOT had expired then you’re limited to driving to a Repairer or MOT.
Oh, and the spare wheel is not an MOT requirement and the schedule doesnt check it. If failed on a spare tyre then demand redress.
Read eg this in Autoexpress magazine..
Check the dates of what you find Googling. The law has changed.
That wording on taking away means that, if your old MOT hasn’t already expired, you can take a failed car away to a place such as home that is not a Repairer or new MOT. You can then not drive it except to repair or MOT. If your old MOT had expired then you’re limited to driving to a Repairer or MOT.
Oh, and the spare wheel is not an MOT requirement and the schedule doesnt check it. If failed on a spare tyre then demand redress.
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Re: MOT Warnings
Yes my bad example, I had already edited before your reply
I can't find any evidence to back this up - personally I think it's just a bit of misreporting. The DVSA take on it seems to be as it always has been - if it fails and has an existing certificate you can still drive it home. The restrictions on only driving to a place of repair or retest are only mentioned for cases where the previous certificate has expired. This is how it always has been.
What may well have changed and possibly is causing the confusion, is the suggestion that refusal to issue is now recorded on the ANPR database. This probably doesn't mean that police will stop you because your existing certificate has been automatically 'superseded', but rather your car is now likely to be not roadworthy, so worth stopping for that alone.
The autoexpress article suggests that the DVSA website states that "any failure recorded will supersede the old pass certificate" however I can't find this statement. The blog from scrapcarcomparison.co.uk on which the article is based directly quotes the DVSA with the same information we are familiar with:
(This sentence confirms the previous test is not expired automatically)The government’s guidelines warn motorists that they face prosecution if they drive their car following an MOT failure – even if its previous test hasn’t expired.
This seems to be the same as always. A valid MOT is no guarantee a vehicle is roadworthy. A test failure is a refusal to issue a new certificate, not cancellation of an existing one. If the existing one is still in date your car still has a valid MOT but as always it is still subject to the law requiring it to be roadworthy. Now the failure to issue a new certificate is recorded and added to the ANPR database, police will look out for the vehicle.THE DVLA website states: If your vehicle fails the MOT: you’ll get a ‘refusal of a MOT test certificate’ from the test centre. It will be recorded in the MOT database. You can take your vehicle away if your MOT certificate is still valid.
I'm just trying to get to the bottom of this as I don't think the law has actually changed - please post up any further information for discussion
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Re: MOT Warnings
Where does it say that?
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Re: MOT Warnings
Having read the blog post on scrapcarcomparison.co.uk, I agree with Phil's interpretation - that all that has apparently changed is that you're more likely to get caught driving an unroadworthy car following an MOT failure due to such records popping up on police ANPR.
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Re: MOT Warnings
I have to say, I think https://www.gov.uk/getting-an-mot/after-the-test is very clear. And I totally agree with Phil. In order for your car to be legal it needs:
1) A valid MOT
2) To be roadworthy, which is defined as "comply with the full requirements of the Road Vehicles (Construction and Use) Regulations and Road Vehicles Lighting Regulations"
MOT certificates last for 12 months, and there is nothing anywhere that I can see that can make that MOT certificate invalid.
If your car fails a new MOT then it may no longer be roadworthy, and you may therefore fall foul of 2). But it seems self-evident to me that, since you are permitted to take the car away, the authorities accept that failing the MOT doesn't automatically mean the car isn't roadworthy. Otherwise the Government is advising you to break the law..... I can imagine many things that would cause an MOT failure, but would not render the vehicle instantly unroadworthy. For instance, you only need most of your lights if it's actually dark (you can get "daylight MOTs" for vehicles without lights). I agree with the earlier comment about passenger seatbelts. Etc.
AutoExpress is the automotive equivalent of a tabloid, and it chases headlines. And it's hardly about to advise it demographic (I'm guessing here ) to drive their car after a failed MOT. And they are not going to try to explain how to establish if your failed car is actually still roadworthy. Much easier to print the easy headline, and tell people "dire things might happen if you drive after a failed MOT". They might. But they might not.
1) A valid MOT
2) To be roadworthy, which is defined as "comply with the full requirements of the Road Vehicles (Construction and Use) Regulations and Road Vehicles Lighting Regulations"
MOT certificates last for 12 months, and there is nothing anywhere that I can see that can make that MOT certificate invalid.
If your car fails a new MOT then it may no longer be roadworthy, and you may therefore fall foul of 2). But it seems self-evident to me that, since you are permitted to take the car away, the authorities accept that failing the MOT doesn't automatically mean the car isn't roadworthy. Otherwise the Government is advising you to break the law..... I can imagine many things that would cause an MOT failure, but would not render the vehicle instantly unroadworthy. For instance, you only need most of your lights if it's actually dark (you can get "daylight MOTs" for vehicles without lights). I agree with the earlier comment about passenger seatbelts. Etc.
AutoExpress is the automotive equivalent of a tabloid, and it chases headlines. And it's hardly about to advise it demographic (I'm guessing here ) to drive their car after a failed MOT. And they are not going to try to explain how to establish if your failed car is actually still roadworthy. Much easier to print the easy headline, and tell people "dire things might happen if you drive after a failed MOT". They might. But they might not.
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Re: MOT Warnings
Has always been my understanding and I can find no evidence that anything has changed.
The Autoexpress article should have said "Don't be too surprised if you get pulled over, if your car has recently failed an MOT, even if your old MOT hasn't expired", since the Police will now be aware of this and may decide to give your car the once-over.
Note that very few Police officers are actually qualified to perform a roadworthiness test, unless the car has something very obvious like bald tyres or large bits hanging off.
The Autoexpress article should have said "Don't be too surprised if you get pulled over, if your car has recently failed an MOT, even if your old MOT hasn't expired", since the Police will now be aware of this and may decide to give your car the once-over.
Note that very few Police officers are actually qualified to perform a roadworthiness test, unless the car has something very obvious like bald tyres or large bits hanging off.
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Re: MOT Warnings
I hadn't expected to start such a debate, but it's been very interesting.
That said, it all remains clear as mud, particularly as the government/DVLA seems to have done flip-flops on its wording, avoiding taking responsibility and leaving confusing information. If the existing MOT certificate remains valid so that the vehicle can be driven until its expiry, why doesn't the gov.uk website say that?
In one sense, what the gov.uk website says is irrelevant. What counts is what the Police think and do; and here, many Police seem to be taking the view that an MOT failure makes the car unroadworthy, and it seems that drivers are finding arguing against them difficult.
Whatever the case, I advise people not to rely on their old MOT remaining valid; if it fails a new test, don't tempt fate, get it sorted ASAP.
That said, it all remains clear as mud, particularly as the government/DVLA seems to have done flip-flops on its wording, avoiding taking responsibility and leaving confusing information. If the existing MOT certificate remains valid so that the vehicle can be driven until its expiry, why doesn't the gov.uk website say that?
In one sense, what the gov.uk website says is irrelevant. What counts is what the Police think and do; and here, many Police seem to be taking the view that an MOT failure makes the car unroadworthy, and it seems that drivers are finding arguing against them difficult.
Whatever the case, I advise people not to rely on their old MOT remaining valid; if it fails a new test, don't tempt fate, get it sorted ASAP.
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Re: MOT Warnings
To sum up what has been said above.
Even if you have still have a valid MOT but are stopped by the police when you not driving to a repair centre, booked in, or MOT appointment, and they find a defect that makes the car unroadworthy you have no defence and may well get booked.
I think there have been instances where a vehicle with 10 months on the MOT has been found to be unroadworthy with worn ball joints, a leaking shock absorber etc; which at the time of the test were fine.
In essence a car for sale with anything less than a brand new 12 months validity MOT cannot be guaranteed to be roadworthy.
Even if you have still have a valid MOT but are stopped by the police when you not driving to a repair centre, booked in, or MOT appointment, and they find a defect that makes the car unroadworthy you have no defence and may well get booked.
I think there have been instances where a vehicle with 10 months on the MOT has been found to be unroadworthy with worn ball joints, a leaking shock absorber etc; which at the time of the test were fine.
In essence a car for sale with anything less than a brand new 12 months validity MOT cannot be guaranteed to be roadworthy.
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Re: MOT Warnings
Although a car with a brand-new MOT should be roadworthy, in practice that's not always the case. I once bought an RX8 with a brand new MOT that turned out to have faulty ABS, DSC and airbags; the previous owner had taped over the warning lights and either the tester was careless or had been slipped a tenner.ChrisHolmes wrote: ↑Tue Oct 03, 2017 8:43 pma car for sale with anything less than a brand new 12 months validity MOT cannot be guaranteed to be roadworthy.
As an aside, I made a formal complaint but got nowhere as it was deemed that the systems could have failed and the lights taped over in the 18 hours since the MOT had been issued. . . . .
. . . . and the previous owner claimed he'd never noticed (not hta made much of a difference; there's not much legal protection with a private sale).
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Re: MOT Warnings
In simple terms a car is only deemed road worthy at the time of the mot not that it is or will be for the next 12 months
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