Noticeable Differences between 03/04/05/06 models RX-8

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Noticeable Differences between 03/04/05/06 models RX-8

Post by fnegroni » Wed Oct 18, 2006 9:23 pm

Leather seats: now fully enclosed in leather. And all smooth (no grippy bits) for end 2005

Tyres: RE040 RZ instead of CZ for 2006

Brake master cilinder without bleeding valve.

Rear doors bottom lip seal now cut open to avoid "rusty seals" and not requiring 3M tape for 2005

New starter motor for 2006

Dexelia oil now SL/A5 spec

New front pads (painted dark green) which don't squeal (as badly) for 2006

Tan and black leather option for 2006

Yellow discontinued by end 2004 (Mazda tradition)

Nordic green discountinued by beginning 05 (?) and replaced with Strato Blue

Protective grill on A/C condenser for 2006

PZ version available mid 2006
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Post by Screamer » Wed Oct 18, 2006 9:37 pm

So the yellow versions are deliberately kept for a short intro period on Mazdas? I remember liking the yellow Mazda 6 when it came out, then later not being able to find a single mention of it... Same applies now with the RX-8. I don't understand the purpose - or do they just do a limited run because they know demand will be flakey?

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Post by orbist » Wed Oct 18, 2006 10:03 pm

Mazda only do yellow for the first year of a cars availablity (in each country)
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Post by BIGWITHEY » Wed Oct 25, 2006 11:56 pm

I thought Strato (White in the US) replaced the Yellow?
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Post by fnegroni » Thu Oct 26, 2006 12:26 am

PZ has metal tyre valves: filled with Nitrogen?
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Post by Lucky7 » Wed Nov 08, 2006 1:25 pm

2006 versions have black hubs rather than silver.

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Post by Silten » Thu Nov 09, 2006 5:48 pm

I have to say that this information worries me. My car was bought from the dealer, registered in August this year, but has the old style seats, no protective grill and very unblack hubs. The sticker on the car says it is an 06 model, but your information here challenges this.

Just how definite is this info?

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Post by Steve vRS » Thu Nov 09, 2006 6:37 pm

fnegroni wrote:PZ has metal tyre valves: filled with Nitrogen?
I doubt they are filled with nitrogen.

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Post by fnegroni » Thu Nov 09, 2006 6:40 pm

handy though, considering NO2 tyre valves are quite expensive (especially compared to regular rubber ones)
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Post by fnegroni » Thu Nov 09, 2006 6:43 pm

Silten wrote: Just how definite is this info?
Not very definite at all. I posted to gather information from owners.

But the fact that your '06 has regular seat backs makes me wonder if it was at the dealership for a while.

Unfortunately I don't think you can ask for a replacement cover as it is a completely different leather seat cover.
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Post by Steve vRS » Thu Nov 09, 2006 8:46 pm

fnegroni wrote:handy though, considering NO2 tyre valves are quite expensive (especially compared to regular rubber ones)
Normal tyre valves can be metal, puely for cosmetic value rather than any other reason. My Puma had metal valves in 1998!!

There is no reason why nitrogen valves be different to normal air valves. Air is a mixture of various gases and 79.5% nitrogen anyway.

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Post by Spectre26 » Tue Jan 30, 2007 8:13 pm

As far as I know you can run nitrogen in your tyres with no need for special valves. I've been running nitrogen in mine since i had the car. But TBH I really wouldnt pay for the service. Just used to help myself to what was left in the "empty" nitrogen bottles at work.

Its supposed to keep a more constant temp whist driving so your tyre presure doesnt really vary, hence keeping your grip constant in that respect. Which is useful if u do pro racing. Also supposed to give better milage for street use as well... But by simply paying for the nitrogen fill u pretty much bin any MPG saving you might have gained.
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Post by weasley » Wed Jan 31, 2007 1:13 pm

Nitrogen will expand and contract like any other gas.... PV=nRT applies here and is independant of the actual gas in question. However, nitrogen from a bottle will have been dried - air from a tyre compressor will tend to have moisture in it which can upset the pressure/temperature relationship. however the effect is largely negligible on a road car.

Furthermore the oxygen in air can oxidise stuff, like rubber; nitrogen is effectively inert.

Of course there is always the weight matter - nitrogen has a lower molecular weight than oxygen, so using pure nitrogen will lower the weight of the overall wheel/tyre combo, thus improving unsprung weight, improving ride and handling. :wink:
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Re: Noticeable Differences between 03/04/05/06 models RX-8

Post by zevans » Fri May 04, 2007 4:06 pm

Interesting post!
fnegroni wrote:Brake master cilinder without bleeding valve.
Eh? Just about to look into the fluid change procedure on mine... are you saying I have no bleed valve?
New front pads (painted dark green) which don't squeal (as badly) for 2006
I noticed that the other day, and I thought "what numpty has put GreenStuff on their car" - didn't realise this was a Mazda change.

Can anyone remember what other car has the same pads as us - a posh Volvo of some sort if I remember correctly...
Yellow discontinued by end 2004 (Mazda tradition)
And covered in B-road crap ever since - Evans tradition :)

There have been some other halo / limited models as well as the PZ, like the coppery one and the white ones...

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Post by Leepie » Wed Feb 20, 2008 8:19 pm

Silten wrote:I have to say that this information worries me. My car was bought from the dealer, registered in August this year, but has the old style seats, no protective grill and very unblack hubs. The sticker on the car says it is an 06 model, but your information here challenges this.

Just how definite is this info?
Mine too?

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Post by DogsnutsEA » Thu Feb 21, 2008 11:22 am

Mine is also an 06 with grippy seat sides and not smooth and the hubs are not black... Don't know about the grills though as I have the MS front nose...

I think it comes down to cars at dealers are stored until bought... They get a certain number over and then give them to customers when bought. Therefore an 06 registered car could be an 05 model.

Just my opinion anyway... :wink:
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Post by Delanor » Thu Feb 21, 2008 10:30 pm

Just to clarify - no RX-8 has all leather upholstery, although later models don`t have the ribbed side panels on the seats the smooth finished panels are still vinyl.

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Post by Trune » Sun Feb 24, 2008 9:01 am

and the change was very late 06 for the leather seat change i believe.

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Post by Teddybear » Fri Feb 29, 2008 9:20 pm

I also have a 2006 registered 8, but it has the "ribbed" leather seats. I guess the change to smooth "leather" came later in the year..

On the subject of colour - I absolutely love Mazdas in yellow - they look awesome! I remember much of the initial adverstising for both the original Mazda6 in 2001 / 2002 and the RX-8 showed the cars in yellow.

Does anyone have any idea if yellow will make a come back for the new 8 face-lift this year?


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Post by stoupaduck » Fri Feb 29, 2008 10:18 pm

Highly unlikely.
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Post by BIGWITHEY » Fri Feb 29, 2008 10:41 pm

:whathesaid:
It was used as the "launch" colour and was replaced by Strato blue in Oct 05.
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Post by Teddybear » Sun Mar 02, 2008 6:31 pm

That was pretty much what I expected.

The pics of the new car look good though from what i have seen so far. I have no idea how accurate they will be to the final product however..

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Post by DogsnutsEA » Sun Mar 02, 2008 7:49 pm

Trune wrote:and the change was very late 06 for the leather seat change i believe.
Not necessarily... I have seen an 05 plate with smooth seat sides... :wink:

This whole theory of design changes is very heavily flawed. :lol:
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Post by Ali » Sun Apr 20, 2008 7:16 pm

Steve vRS wrote:
fnegroni wrote:PZ has metal tyre valves: filled with Nitrogen?
I doubt they are filled with nitrogen.
They are...70% Nitrogen :wink:
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