Potential PZ purchase from Hextable Rotary!

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Potential PZ purchase from Hextable Rotary!

Post by carl355m » Tue Dec 05, 2017 8:50 am

Hi everyone,

We'll after a lot of research I've decided to get myself an RX8 and I particularly fancy getting a pz!
This is where I'd really like some advice....hextable rotary have what seems to be a good example...2006 with 44kmiles and a full service history. The normalised compression results are as follows -
Front rotor - 7.0 7.1 7.0
Rear rotor - 7.3 7.4 7.1

So I guess I have two questions, there's quite a bit of negative feedback about hextable on here and I wondered if anyone has had recent dealings with them as to how true this is? And assuming these compression results are accurate is it a car I should seriously consider?

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Re: Potential PZ purchase from Hextable Rotary!

Post by Dazza44 » Tue Dec 05, 2017 9:16 am

Hi there and welcome,I've had no dealings with them myself bit there ruputation is not very good unfortunately , and also all the compression tests seem to strangely return in the 7s, of course is upto you and I'm sure others will be along shortly to advise further, personally I wouldn't touch that company,sorry.

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Re: Potential PZ purchase from Hextable Rotary!

Post by Vian » Tue Dec 05, 2017 9:19 am

If the compression figures are true, then that's excellent.

Query who did the compression test, and you can always get one done yourself. I got mine from Hextable and it's been excellent, but the reputation is somewhat variable as you rightly say. Don't rule it out, but do some due diligence.
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Re: Potential PZ purchase from Hextable Rotary!

Post by Shagrington » Tue Dec 05, 2017 9:33 am

Hi and :welcome: carl355m. :D If those compression results are genuine, correct and from a very recent compression test then they are indicative of a healthy engine. So in answer to your second question, in that instance yes it would be a car worth pursuing. To answer your first question, however, those test results do appear to be pretty much the same as (identical to?) results we have seen people being given for cars they have bought from Hextable which turned out to be very different to results of compression tests they have subsequently had done themselves. I would advise to proceed with caution and maybe even ask for another test to be done while you watch or, perhaps even better, to ask if you can take it to LC Rotary, who are not far away from Hextable, to have a new test done before you part with any money.

To be fair to Hextable, they have mostly been reported as having been reasonably good with sorting out the issues arising (perhaps by refunding the money paid or arranging engine rebuilds) when they have been found out after selling cars with dubious compression test results, but they shouldn't have been selling cars with questionable records in the first place. [-X Finding out about and getting the issues sorted is the sort of hassle new owners could really do without.

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Re: Potential PZ purchase from Hextable Rotary!

Post by Rotary Potato » Tue Dec 05, 2017 9:59 am

Did their compression tester look like this by any chance?

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I've never used them myself. Personally I wouldn't assume it was a bad car just because Hexstable were selling it. However, I'd be highly sceptical and be extra careful when doing my due dilligence because of their reputation for "creative" compression test results.
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Re: Potential PZ purchase from Hextable Rotary!

Post by Pensive » Tue Dec 05, 2017 11:04 am

I recently bought a 2006 44k PZ from them.....

Please PM me.

Absolutely you MUST:
1) Get LC Rotary to do an independent compression test, and on-ramp inspection before putting any other money down. SERIOUSLY DO THIS!!!! it’s money well spent.
2) Ask to see the service history before purchase and check it thoroughly. Don’t be fobbed off that it’s “all digital” and that they’ll get it for you. It never appears.

Some (a lot) of what they told me was actually just made up. But they did sort things out once they were forced to, not sure if that’s to their credit or not.

If I were to start over I’d buy a minter with a blown engine and get a premium rebuild with a 2/2.5 year warranty. It’s the best way forward.

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Re: Potential PZ purchase from Hextable Rotary!

Post by Scartlead » Tue Dec 05, 2017 1:18 pm

Pensive wrote:
Tue Dec 05, 2017 11:04 am
I recently bought a 2006 44k PZ from them.....

Please PM me.

Absolutely you MUST:
1) Get LC Rotary to do an independent compression test, and on-ramp inspection before putting any other money down. SERIOUSLY DO THIS!!!! it’s money well spent.
2) Ask to see the service history before purchase and check it thoroughly. Don’t be fobbed off that it’s “all digital” and that they’ll get it for you. It never appears.

Some (a lot) of what they told me was actually just made up. But they did sort things out once they were forced to, not sure if that’s to their credit or not.

If I were to start over I’d buy a minter with a blown engine and get a premium rebuild with a 2/2.5 year warranty. It’s the best way forward.
Sound advise there. Also as noted engine condition was not my first priority when I bought my own , chassis/paint condition was. Engine rebuilds are not mega money in the big scheme of things. Then theres modding, Something you'll probably get very accustomed to on here :)
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Re: Potential PZ purchase from Hextable Rotary!

Post by Dazza44 » Tue Dec 05, 2017 1:23 pm


Scartlead wrote:
Pensive wrote:
Tue Dec 05, 2017 11:04 am
I recently bought a 2006 44k PZ from them.....

Please PM me.

Absolutely you MUST:
1) Get LC Rotary to do an independent compression test, and on-ramp inspection before putting any other money down. SERIOUSLY DO THIS!!!! it’s money well spent.
2) Ask to see the service history before purchase and check it thoroughly. Don’t be fobbed off that it’s “all digital” and that they’ll get it for you. It never appears.

Some (a lot) of what they told me was actually just made up. But they did sort things out once they were forced to, not sure if that’s to their credit or not.

If I were to start over I’d buy a minter with a blown engine and get a premium rebuild with a 2/2.5 year warranty. It’s the best way forward.
. Then theres modding, Something you'll probably get very accustomed to on here :)
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Re: Potential PZ purchase from Hextable Rotary!

Post by acegeezer » Tue Dec 05, 2017 1:26 pm

Nothing to add.. all the above is sound advice :thumleft:
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Re: Potential PZ purchase from Hextable Rotary!

Post by 13Black » Tue Dec 05, 2017 1:42 pm

Anyone in my area with recently purchased car from Hextable with a compression test provided?

I have research to do, won't cost you a thing.
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Re: Potential PZ purchase from Hextable Rotary!

Post by carl355m » Tue Dec 05, 2017 1:52 pm

First of all I'd like to thanks to everyone for the quick reply's and suggestions!

Given that I live a fair distance away from Hextable I guess I could really live without having to worry about potential problems before I even own the car!

It seems that it would be a good idea for a newbie like myself to consider the purchase of a car with a recent rebuild by a reputable company such as LC Rotary...I notice they have a few cars for sale at the moment...no pz's but I'll give them a call anyway....and as pensive has suggested I'm sure they would be happy to rebuild a pz for me should I be able to locate one in need of some engine tlc!

Thanks again all,

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Re: Potential PZ purchase from Hextable Rotary!

Post by bigpete » Wed Dec 06, 2017 8:41 am

Hi Carl or my mate has this for sale and has owned it from six months old and been a member from day one so very well looked after.
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Re: Potential PZ purchase from Hextable Rotary!

Post by carl355m » Thu Dec 07, 2017 9:55 pm

Thanks so much for the suggestion....it does look like a great car but I'm really looking for a PZ.

Cheers,

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Re: Potential PZ purchase from Hextable Rotary!

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Re: Potential PZ purchase from Hextable Rotary!

Post by Luke M ~ (MRS) » Sun Dec 10, 2017 8:19 pm

I can perform a compression test using a genuine mazda tester if you would like one done infront of you. All results will be explained. Please feel free to contact me for further details.

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Re: Potential PZ purchase from Hextable Rotary!

Post by carl355m » Fri Jan 19, 2018 2:47 pm

Well guys,

Just a little update on my search. I have just bought a grey PZ from Warren Court Rotaries with a fresh engine rebuild on a car that has done 70k. It looks in great condition with an updated starter and new tyres.

Thanks again for your advice!!

Roll on next weekend!!

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Re: Potential PZ purchase from Hextable Rotary!

Post by Salokin » Fri Jan 19, 2018 2:52 pm

Congrats on the purchase Carl, I have also recently bought a PZ (black) and I love it! . Hope it brings you plenty on enjoyment. Glad you found one with a recent rebuild too!

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Re: Potential PZ purchase from Hextable Rotary!

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Re: Potential PZ purchase from Hextable Rotary!

Post by Big Bob » Fri Jan 19, 2018 3:53 pm

Congratulations on the PZ Carl. I know you will enjoy driving it.
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Re: Potential PZ purchase from Hextable Rotary!

Post by carl355m » Fri Jan 19, 2018 3:57 pm

That’s good to hear....I’ve only had a quick chat with him on the phone but even then felt confident to buy without going to see it! Seeing as I live a good 200 miles away!

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Re: Potential PZ purchase from Hextable Rotary!

Post by Shagrington » Sat Jan 20, 2018 12:17 am

Congratulations =D> and I guess that is my cue to post this - Have a good read through whatever in the FAQ section you didn't already read :study: and then (and just ignore me if you know all this already) here are my best tips for keeping it all running sweetly:

1. To start up turn the key to position 2, wait for most of the lights on the dash to go out (I watch the airbag light by the glove box), press the clutch to the floor (optional, but reduces drag), turn the key to start and do not touch the throttle until it has started. You can drive off straight away, just keep the revs down for a bit (see #4 below).

2. Never [-X turn off the engine before it has reached at least somewhere towards normal operating temperature (should only take a minute or two, but best to go for a short drive if just swapping cars round on the drive etc). Switching off cold risks flooding, which is a real :censored: with a rotary engine. Mazda recommend rev to 4k and hold it for 8-10 seconds switching off while still revving if you have no option but to switch off cold (it is not necessary to do this in any other circumstance).

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Re: Potential PZ purchase from Hextable Rotary!

Post by carl355m » Mon Jan 22, 2018 9:29 am

Hi,

Thanks for the information...as you can imagine I’ve done a lot of reading prior to taking the plunge into rotary ownership! But it’s useful to have this to hand. I’m going to collect the car on Thursday so then the fun will begin!

I’ll be sure to sort the membership soon as I’ve already had a great deal of help from members and can imagine how invaluable a resource this site will be as an rx8 owner!

Thanks again for the welcome!

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Re: Potential PZ purchase from Hextable Rotary!

Post by Shagrington » Mon Jan 22, 2018 5:43 pm

Well done :thumleft: - and I can confirm it is only because of the club, the forum, the advice I've received and read, the contacts I've made here and the help I've received that mine has stayed on the road with no problems for the 11.5 years I've had it.
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