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Re: Wheel Spacers - 20mm too much?

Post by RX8R3Rod » Thu Oct 06, 2011 9:58 pm

Hi Bob, really looking forward to seeing the pictures :D , and I'm sure you're really looking forward to both the visual upgrade and the handling and road-holding upgrades (and that's not exactly from a low base!) =D>

No more upgrades, eh ... :^o but I guess there's certainly no need for any!
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Re: Wheel Spacers - 20mm too much?

Post by tonyG1987 » Fri Oct 07, 2011 1:50 pm

until the mod bug hits hard!!!
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Re: Wheel Spacers - 20mm too much?

Post by Ross15 » Tue Nov 01, 2011 10:17 am

Slight hijack but anyone know the dimensions of the spacers?? Going to make some up in work and would save me the time of measuring the wheel & hub.

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Re: Wheel Spacers - 20mm too much?

Post by RX8R3Rod » Tue Nov 01, 2011 5:06 pm

Hi Ross,

I couldn't really tell you as the hub-centric ones have a variable-sized hole that fits snug-as-a-bug over the ... Hub. And I think hub-centric ones are the ones to go for if you can, as you don't get any vibration issues at all with decent hub-centric spacers, whereas you can pretty easily if you go for the Halfords-style 'big washer' type. Hope this is of some use.
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Re: Wheel Spacers - 20mm too much?

Post by chri5 » Tue Nov 01, 2011 5:39 pm

BobJ wrote:Despite the positive comments (thank you :oops: ) I decided that the Eibach 20mm pro-spacers were indeed too much and went for their 15mm ones. They are exactly the same as the 20's in terms of wheel mounting method except they are err... 5mm narrower #-o

Anyway, before I had them fitted I decided that the bare alluminium 'rim' stood out too much against the satin black of the discs that came with the Racing Brake BBK and the anthracite wheels of the R3. So I took them to my local body shop who said that I would be better off having them powder coated. The went to a small local powder coating company who said they would charge me about £200 for the job :shock:

So I resorted to a rattle can of Hammerite smooth in satin black. Having applied the recommended Hammerite primer and then spending ages carefully masking off the faces of the spacers I was quite pleased with the results. Hopefully the Hammerite will be a little more durable.....

I'm even more pleased with the overall effect on the car. I know it's only 5mm less per wheel but to my eye it looks a bit more restrained whilst still filling the arches nicely. It'll look even better when I get round to having some lower springs fitted.

Some barely used Eibach 20mm Pro-Spacers coming to an Ebay site near you soon....
Drop me a price mate. I might be interested in them ;)
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Post by tonyG1987 » Tue Nov 01, 2011 7:14 pm

chris i already bought them off bob ;)
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Post by chri5 » Tue Nov 01, 2011 7:19 pm

Fair enough mate :)
Think I'll be investing in a set of these ;)
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Re: Wheel Spacers - 20mm too much?

Post by Ross15 » Wed Nov 02, 2011 8:12 am

Thanks RX8R3Rod, i saw the pic from MRP and realise what you mean about the hub centric ones, definitaley the way forward just more time and effort.

Only if you hadnt posted your pics but looks too good not to try it!!!

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Post by RX8R3Rod » Wed Nov 02, 2011 10:37 am

They do look to good not to try, don't they? IMHO they're the biggest visual gain for the buck!
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Re: Wheel Spacers - 20mm too much?

Post by BobJ » Wed Nov 02, 2011 6:27 pm

tonyG1987 wrote:chris i already bought them off bob ;)
Tony - have you put them on yet? What do you think?
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Re: Wheel Spacers - 20mm too much?

Post by tonyG1987 » Sat Nov 05, 2011 11:10 pm

yes its on Bob (thank you) :) woohoo! top quality and perfect fit. looks well flush with the arches. i did get some rubbing when the car had a full load of passengers, boot full of gear and i went over a pothole. aside from that its magic!

had to get the garage to fit the fronts because the bolts were on too tight. i've got some pics up on my garage page.
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Re: Wheel Spacers - 20mm too much?

Post by tonyG1987 » Sun Dec 04, 2011 10:18 pm

just thought id share this with others that have spacers on. might be a worthwhile investment buying a proper torque wrench. I fitted my rear spacers and after about a month or so I started hearing some knocking noise from the rear passenger side, thought it was the spacers and I can confirm that it was, took the wheel off and there are some rubbing marks between the spacer and the hub. the bolts holding the spacer also became slack that you can hand turn them. after tightening them up no more noise.
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Post by Speedy36 » Sun Dec 04, 2011 10:58 pm

=D> =D>
Very nice Bob thats given me food for thought.
And if they are that easy to fit 8)

Then its time to lower me thinks :wink:
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Post by Mazda Rotary Parts » Mon Dec 05, 2011 9:11 am

tonyG1987 wrote:just thought id share this with others that have spacers on. might be a worthwhile investment buying a proper torque wrench. I fitted my rear spacers and after about a month or so I started hearing some knocking noise from the rear passenger side, thought it was the spacers and I can confirm that it was, took the wheel off and there are some rubbing marks between the spacer and the hub. the bolts holding the spacer also became slack that you can hand turn them. after tightening them up no more noise.

Many thanks for posting this Tony,

We sell many of these on a regular basis to RX-8 owners and have not encountered this before, so I would suggest that the nuts for what ever reason had not torqued up properly in the first place "or" the face had some dirt, rust or grit on it and the spacer had not been able to sit properly flat on each face.

Personaly I tighten the spacer nuts to 100lbs with loctite thread lock on the studs, which I thought every one would do #-o

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Post by Speedy36 » Mon Dec 05, 2011 9:39 am

=D>
Good stuff clive well pointed out.

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Re: Wheel Spacers - 20mm too much?

Post by tonyG1987 » Mon Dec 05, 2011 11:15 am

your welcome clive. when we installed the rear spacers we tightened it up as much as we can (without proper torque wrench) so we didnt know how much pressure we were applying but just as tight as we can. your most likely right with the dust and dirt etc as i dont seem to remember cleaning the face before putting the spacer on.
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Post by Speedy36 » Mon Dec 05, 2011 4:56 pm

OMG #-o
Why did i read this thread!!!!!

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Post by BobJ » Thu Dec 08, 2011 7:10 pm

Speedy36 wrote: Just ordered a set from Robbie 8)
Good move =D> 20's or 15's?
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Post by Speedy36 » Thu Dec 08, 2011 10:29 pm

15's mate thought the 20's were just slightly to much plus Robbie made me an offer I couldnt refuse :wink:
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Post by Speedy36 » Tue Dec 13, 2011 10:50 pm

Other than thread lock and a torque wrench is there anything else i will need to fit the wheel spacers????

hopefully going to get them done this weekend weather permitting [-o<
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Post by tonyG1987 » Wed Dec 14, 2011 12:37 am

think your good :) oh clean the faces of the wheel and hub. i didnt do this when i first installed mine- wish i did.
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Re: Wheel Spacers - 20mm too much?

Post by RX8R3Rod » Wed Dec 14, 2011 7:21 am

Only a screwdriver (blade in the veins of the discs, handle against the caliper) or something to prevent the front hubs turning when you tighten the spacers up. The handbrake will stop the rears turning as you tighten the spacers up.

Do post some pics when done, and good luck! :D
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Post by Speedy36 » Wed Dec 14, 2011 7:57 am

Cheers for that guys ;)
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Post by warpc0il » Wed Dec 14, 2011 9:45 am

Someone sitting in the car, with their foot on the brake, also works...
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Post by Speedy36 » Wed Dec 14, 2011 11:32 am

That sounds like a safer option mate ;)
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