Fitting "The Mouse Mat Mod"

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Re: Fitting "The Mouse Mat Mod"

Post by PeteH » Thu Mar 30, 2017 11:18 am

I captured this yesterday, after two hot laps of Cadwell. I don't actually know what oil temperature I run, but the coolers are certainly getting hot!
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Re: Fitting "The Mouse Mat Mod"

Post by Lemon » Thu Nov 22, 2018 6:01 pm

giving this a try as we are getting into the negatives round these parts.

oddly i found the drivers side one is rucking up a bit even though i cut them to the same width.
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Re: Fitting "The Mouse Mat Mod"

Post by bigpete8 » Thu Nov 22, 2018 7:06 pm

I don't think you should block both coolers even in winter...
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Re: Fitting "The Mouse Mat Mod"

Post by Hopkins » Thu Dec 20, 2018 8:44 am

An obvious question that has not yet been explicitly asked: why not just use slightly less viscous oil? Is it only because there may be residual water in the system which needs to be boiled off? I haven't ever noticed "mayonnaise" on my dip stick!

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Re: Fitting "The Mouse Mat Mod"

Post by Honkytonk » Fri Nov 15, 2019 1:52 pm

Hopefully a stupid question for fitting this- if fitted with what I believe are OEM grilles, do I need to drop the bumper off to fit the mousemat? I can't feel an obvious way these detach and don't want to go tearing out something as I'd like to refit the grille afterwards if possible. It looks like a hook at the top and some pins at the bottom but can't find this bit on the EPC or technical manuals.

I've got a nice fine mesh to go between mousemat and cooler, as the poor thing's seen better days.

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Re: Fitting "The Mouse Mat Mod"

Post by warpc0il » Fri Nov 15, 2019 3:10 pm

Those are the PZ grills, unique to that model.

I believe you would have to remove the bumper to get them off.

Not a big job, takes about 20 minutes, and a bit longer to replace, if the fog light connections don't cooperate.

You could fit a mouse mat in front of the grill, held in place by small cable ties punched through the mat and looped through the grill mesh.

You'd have to cut to match the shape.

Looking at the photos, it's surprising how much damage there is to the front of the cooler fins, despite the grill.

I wonder if this is from pressure washing rather than stones.

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Re: Fitting "The Mouse Mat Mod"

Post by Honkytonk » Fri Nov 15, 2019 4:05 pm

Thanks Dave, it makes sense it being a PZ part with it not appearing on the EPC.

I think I can probably feed it down behind the grill over the top, but am worried about melting/setting fire to the foamy plastic without something between it and the cooler to prevent any direct touching (and also want to fit that finer mesh to stop whatever has caused that damage - I've never pressure washed the car so can't comment on whether that's caused it).

I've not tried to burn a plastic foam mouse mat before (there's always time), but hopefully the cooler wouldn't get much over 100-120C in normal use? I doubt that's hot enough to combust said mat, but it may well melt it to a point where it's more inclined to catch. I was hoping this'd be a work carpark jobbie but if I'll have to drop the nose off to do it properly, it'll wait.
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Re: Fitting "The Mouse Mat Mod"

Post by warpc0il » Fri Nov 15, 2019 4:16 pm

My mouse mats are fitted directly against the core of the cooler(s) and have never had any problems with heat damage.

This despite me forgetting to remove one before a track session, when I didn't notice until the lunch break, and was pleasantly surprised that it hadn't caused any cooling problems during so much flat-out running, albeit on a fairly chilly day, and the other side was open.
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Re: Fitting "The Mouse Mat Mod"

Post by Honkytonk » Fri Nov 15, 2019 4:20 pm

Tuck it up against the coolers it is then. Thanks Dave!

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Re: Fitting "The Mouse Mat Mod"

Post by Honkytonk » Fri Nov 15, 2019 6:48 pm

Just to end the 'story', tucking the mat over the top proved to be near impossible, so off the nose will come next chance I get to do some work on the car.

For anyone in my position (i.e. with a PZ) coming to this thread later, Racing beat have a handy how to pdf for removing the nose.
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Re: Fitting "The Mouse Mat Mod"

Post by Yorindesarin » Fri Oct 09, 2020 7:54 pm

Duncan what mouse mat did you end up using out of curiosity?

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Re: Fitting "The Mouse Mat Mod"

Post by Honkytonk » Fri Oct 09, 2020 9:11 pm

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Re: Fitting "The Mouse Mat Mod"

Post by sKenDread » Sat Oct 10, 2020 7:39 pm

Yorindesarin wrote:Duncan what mouse mat did you end up using out of curiosity?
I just used an old roll of neoprene I had laying around dude. Although it's behind a grill. But originally had them on both and got paranoid. No burns or anything so far
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Re: Fitting "The Mouse Mat Mod"

Post by warpc0il » Sat Oct 10, 2020 7:46 pm

Both is probably not a good idea unless;
- the ambient is sub-zero
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- the car's only being used for a very short commute.

I did run with two mats for a while, as rule 1 applied, then forgot when the weather got warmer :oops: , which just meant the fans were a bit busy for a few days - no harm done
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Re: Fitting "The Mouse Mat Mod"

Post by Yorindesarin » Sat Oct 10, 2020 7:48 pm

With winter being what it is here and my commute most days being very short two is going to be what I run for a bit. I'll just have to remember to remove them before driving south or things will get sketchy!

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Re: Fitting "The Mouse Mat Mod"

Post by Bullet5 » Sat Oct 10, 2020 8:00 pm

Gauges are what you could do with Yorindesarin. A water and oil temp ideally. :thumright:

Personally in the UK, I ran 1 constantly for virtually all of winter. I'd only run two if you were only running a sub 4 mile commute with sub 0 temps.

One thing to note, if you are planning on pulling them in/out a lot then investing in grills (such as lockwoods) would be ideal as you can't damage the radiator fins then and don't have to worry about stone or birds flying into them. You may think that'll never happen to you, however I do have a colleague at work, who after purchasing his blob eye Scoobie, got home to realise the previous owner had left a very very dead bird mushed into the radiator for him. :pale:

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Re: Fitting "The Mouse Mat Mod"

Post by Yorindesarin » Sat Oct 10, 2020 8:04 pm

As I live in Scotland and our winters tend to hit 0 to -8C I feel boths ideal. Gauges is on my list of toys to buy just not right now! :p My commutes also 7 miles either way probably 4 days out of 5. Or 5 days out of 6.

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