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Ignition leads Group Buy - Please Read all - Now MSD - UPDATE 14/11/2018

Post by Ryan Rotary Performance » Mon Oct 01, 2018 1:18 pm

EDIT 14/11/2018

The leads are now ready to purchase, rather do a complicated group buy I've now decided to put them up on the website with a sale for all, so leads are £64.99 until the new year, for those you have purchased the coils, a free shipping code can be used "coils" this is will give you free shipping.

Link is here: https://www.ryanrotaryperformance.com/s ... ds-oem-fit





EDIT so its looks as though Magnecor are not playing ball, so I'm unable to deliver on this, however, what I can deliver is MSD 8.5mm leads for £64.99, in my opinion the MSD have a better boot design of that of the Magnecor and have been proven as a quality product.

Apologies everyone, nothing i can do here but offer up these in place.

MSD 8.5mm Leads £64.99, Please confirm you're all happy with this,

1. graemeS83 with Order 1461 - TBC
2. AutoGibbon with Order 1479 - TBC
3. Salokin with Order 1466- TBC
4. Tayfun with Order 1467 - TBC
5. Culdranth with order 1475 - TBC

EDIT 06/11/2018

I have bulked ordered a load of MSD leads for my new coils system, what I'll do and to save confusion is offer these for £65 until the new year with free postage to those who have ordered Coils.

Free Postage Code will be "Coils"

i'll update the website in the next few days :thumright:


So with all the coils going out I thought I would set up a GB for those wanting a complete new ignition system. I'm thinking Magnecor, they are a UK brand and good quality.

So you will have two choices, the RX-8 Magnecor KV85 8.5mm Ignition Leads (Recommended Retail @ £67.00) or;
The Magnecor R-100 10mm Ignition Leads (Recommended Retail @ £90)

I'll start the discount for both sets @ ~10%, if we can get more than 10 people in total then I'll look to raising to get you guys the best deal, the more we get in, the better my bargaining power with Magnecor. Those that have ordered my coils I'll look to include in the same box so no additional postage, for those who just want some new leads, I'll get these out as soon as the GB finishes.

R100 10mm List (£81)

1. graemeS83 with Order 1461
2. AutoGibbon with Order 1479
3. Salokin with Order 1466

KV85 8.5MM List (£60)

1. Tayfun with Order 1467
2. Culdranth with order 1475
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Re: Ignition leads Group Buy

Post by Culdranth » Mon Oct 01, 2018 1:20 pm

Are their any benefits over the 10mm rather than 8.5?

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Post by warpc0il » Mon Oct 01, 2018 1:25 pm

The 10mm don't fit the existing cable routing clip - which is a downside - while the 8.5mm will squeeze in.
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Re: Ignition leads Group Buy

Post by tayfun » Mon Oct 01, 2018 2:11 pm

KV85 for me please

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Post by Ryan Rotary Performance » Mon Oct 01, 2018 3:43 pm

Also guys please state whether you want to go out with coils or on there own :)

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Re: Ignition leads Group Buy

Post by AutoGibbon » Mon Oct 01, 2018 6:22 pm

Bugger I just bought a set of KV85!
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Re: Ignition leads Group Buy

Post by graemeS83 » Mon Oct 01, 2018 6:59 pm

Fitment issues aside, is there any functional reason one would want the 10mm ones on an otherwise stock engine with the RRP coils? A quick look on the website seems to state the only difference is thicker insulation mainly to cope with extra heat or 'extreme output coils', I am assuming that doesnt apply in this case and the 8.5mm is more than good enough.

In that case put me down for a set of the KV85, I am more than happy for you to put them in with the coils (order number 1461).

Changed my mind to go with the beefier R100 leads instead (see below), I am more than happy for you to put them in with the coils (order number 1461)

Thanks.
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Re: Ignition leads Group Buy

Post by tayfun » Mon Oct 01, 2018 8:37 pm

Ryan Rotary Performance wrote:
Mon Oct 01, 2018 3:43 pm
Also guys please state whether you want to go out with coils or on there own :)
With order #1467 please :thumleft:

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Re: Ignition leads Group Buy

Post by Salokin » Mon Oct 01, 2018 9:30 pm

KV85 please. Can you put this in with my postage please? Order 1466. Very kind of you to do this - thank you!

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Re: Ignition leads Group Buy

Post by Salokin » Mon Oct 01, 2018 9:33 pm

Just another thought... If you have enough sets to go around, would you consider selling some plugs too? I'd certainly be interested. People can buy all their ignition goodies through you then. Good for business, easy for people and less postage for everyone .

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Re: Ignition leads Group Buy

Post by PeteH » Mon Oct 01, 2018 10:00 pm

For info, there are two functional benefits of the R-100 over the KV85.

The first is "dielectric strength". This means the voltage the lead can take before the insulation breaks down, and the lead potentially arcs across to the engine. Magnecore state that the dielectric strength of the KV85 is 60kV, and the R-100 is 80kV. I think the RRP coils output up to 60kV. I'm not saying anything about which leads are suitable, I'm only quoting the listed specifications.

The second difference is the temperature the lead can take. The KV85 is 320degC continuous, and the R-100 is 380degC. These both seem to be very adequate to me, but it's up to you to decide.

I've got R-100 on mine, because if any car needs the best possible ignition it's the rex, but I'm always "belt and braces".

If I've got anything wrong here please correct me Carl. :thumleft:
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Re: Ignition leads Group Buy

Post by geofftl1000r » Mon Oct 01, 2018 10:10 pm

R-100 please. Add to Order #1469

Maybe someone could 3D print up some new cable holders? No idea if that's possible.
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Re: Ignition leads Group Buy

Post by New Duke » Mon Oct 01, 2018 10:18 pm

geofftl1000r wrote:
Mon Oct 01, 2018 10:10 pm
Maybe someone could 3D print up some new cable holders? No idea if that's possible.
Easy peasy... provided someone either has the print files or access to a 3D scanner and spare clips.

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Post by 13Black » Mon Oct 01, 2018 10:27 pm

Already 3D printed some universal ones, fams

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Re: Ignition leads Group Buy

Post by graemeS83 » Mon Oct 01, 2018 11:22 pm

Think I will risk the more awkward fitting and change my mind to the 10mm R100. I missed that little tidbit of information with the 60kV output, if these coils are indeed putting that out then thats a bit too close for comfort for me.

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Post by AutoGibbon » Mon Oct 01, 2018 11:45 pm

PeteH wrote:
Mon Oct 01, 2018 10:00 pm
For info, there are two functional benefits of the R-100 over the KV85.

The first is "dielectric strength". This means the voltage the lead can take before the insulation breaks down, and the lead potentially arcs across to the engine. Magnecore state that the dielectric strength of the KV85 is 60kV, and the R-100 is 80kV. I think the RRP coils output up to 60kV. I'm not saying anything about which leads are suitable, I'm only quoting the listed specifications.

The second difference is the temperature the lead can take. The KV85 is 320degC continuous, and the R-100 is 380degC. These both seem to be very adequate to me, but it's up to you to decide.

I've got R-100 on mine, because if any car needs the best possible ignition it's the rex, but I'm always "belt and braces".

If I've got anything wrong here please correct me Carl. :thumleft:
I was interested in following this up, considering I've already got my KV85 set sitting behind me ready to go.
On https://www.magnecor.com/magnecor1/files/kv85-r100.pdf it states those ratings "at 260C". Bed time now, but will continue...
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Re: Ignition leads Group Buy

Post by Ryan Rotary Performance » Tue Oct 02, 2018 7:30 am

PeteH wrote:
Mon Oct 01, 2018 10:00 pm
For info, there are two functional benefits of the R-100 over the KV85.

The first is "dielectric strength". This means the voltage the lead can take before the insulation breaks down, and the lead potentially arcs across to the engine. Magnecore state that the dielectric strength of the KV85 is 60kV, and the R-100 is 80kV. I think the RRP coils output up to 60kV. I'm not saying anything about which leads are suitable, I'm only quoting the listed specifications.

The second difference is the temperature the lead can take. The KV85 is 320degC continuous, and the R-100 is 380degC. These both seem to be very adequate to me, but it's up to you to decide.

I've got R-100 on mine, because if any car needs the best possible ignition it's the rex, but I'm always "belt and braces".

If I've got anything wrong here please correct me Carl. :thumleft:
I think you summed it up nicely there Pete, thanks, I also personally have 10mm leads on my car for exactly the same reason, I just want the best.

When testing these coils I ran a 8.5mm lead with no issues but that's not to say there were no spark leakage when I was putting the car through its paces and everything had warmed up a little.

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Re: Ignition leads Group Buy

Post by Ryan Rotary Performance » Tue Oct 02, 2018 7:48 am

Salokin wrote:
Mon Oct 01, 2018 9:33 pm
Just another thought... If you have enough sets to go around, would you consider selling some plugs too? I'd certainly be interested. People can buy all their ignition goodies through you then. Good for business, easy for people and less postage for everyone Image.

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Re: Ignition leads Group Buy

Post by jondkent » Tue Oct 02, 2018 9:22 am

I brought the original coils you did last year and I'm using the leads that came with it. Any point/benefit in upgrading to these?

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Post by 13Black » Tue Oct 02, 2018 9:42 am

The old coils will have had a D585 nose on the coil I believe so will be bespoke leads that won't fit the MK2 IIRC.

Ironically this is one of the benefits since there'll usually be no need to replace the leads going from an OEM setup.

But for those with D585s like yourself, you'll need OEM fitment leads.

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Post by AutoGibbon » Tue Oct 02, 2018 12:33 pm

Stuff it put me down for the R100s as well please, sent with the coils. All this talk about only the best is getting me aroused. I'm sure someone would love an unused set of KV85s.
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Post by Ryan Rotary Performance » Tue Oct 02, 2018 1:10 pm

jondkent wrote:
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I brought the original coils you did last year and I'm using the leads that came with it. Any point/benefit in upgrading to these?

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Post by Ryan Rotary Performance » Tue Oct 02, 2018 1:15 pm

Another option for leads is the MSD 8.5mm leads, these may come in slightly cheaper than the Magnecor and are a very good lead indeed, great quality

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Post by warpc0il » Tue Oct 02, 2018 1:58 pm

I would encourage everyone that's fitting new coils to also fit new leads, unless the leads you already have are fairly new and of equivalent quality.

Bad leads (e.g. the originals or cheap aftermarket replacements) will kill coils.
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Re: Ignition leads Group Buy

Post by Culdranth » Tue Oct 02, 2018 3:12 pm

I'll have a set of r100 with order 1475 :thumleft:

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