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Post by MR_E » Fri Nov 13, 2015 9:43 pm

AdamGaltress wrote:Looking forward to seeing photos for this day guys :thumright: Have fun! :D
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Post by tractorboy » Sun Nov 15, 2015 11:53 am

You had some dry track then!

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Post by Conan » Sun Nov 15, 2015 12:01 pm

Dry!! I even had to wear my sun glasses!!
I would like to thank everyone who came and supported the RX8 Clubs presence at the GP circuit :thumright:
I think everyone will agree that the Circuits days running of the day was superb =D>
I know a lot more people would have liked to have attended for the iconic GP circuit but had prior commitments :(
It did rain it the afternoon after everyone had learnt the track which made it interesting and disposed of several cars :wink:
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Post by GreySilver Beast » Sun Nov 15, 2015 12:11 pm

What a fantastic day we all had Image No one had any issues in our little group and all the cars went home in one piece for a change :!:

My car only really came alive once I filled up with the Fuel at the Track and switched back to Map1 but by this time it was raining quite hard Image

Had a few hairy moments out on the Track when it was raining,but the GT is very forgiving and snapped the car back into a straight line again :!:

Jamie came close to doing a 180 in front of me when he almost lost the car in a skid, but he retained control and possibly a bit shaken up as Jamie ended up behind me again and tried his hardest to keep up with me Image

By then my car was flying on these Kumhos that NickD had sold to me about 6 months ago and just gives me tremendous grip in the wet Image I just wish it had started to rain well before lunch Image

So now I say roll on to the 4th December for my last Track Day of the year Image



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Re: DONINGTON PARK GP Saturday 14th NOV £150

Post by ChrisHolmes » Sun Nov 15, 2015 12:22 pm

Thanks Pete for organising this event and especially for your invaluable coaching from the passenger seat, ease off the steering-feed in the throttle-let it run wider and hey ho faster corner exiting and then it rained which made this info even more useful.

As for the diagnosis of "the fuel pumps knackered" when the engine cut on you exiting Goddards thats invaluable information and I can hopefully borrow your pump ring tool to sort mine out soon. due you your cornering tips I was taking the Melbourne hairpin a lot faster later on and the fuel pump issue appeared again accelerating up toward Goddards.

Met some new faces and some known ones again, the usual friendly club banter and fortunately none of has any breakages or major dramas going off unlike the guys who rolled a Clio at the bottom of Craner Curves and the Integra that went straight on sideways from the Craner Curves and hit the tyre wall on the right. No one was hurt and both drove back to the pits.

Driving in the wet was certainly "educational" and top marks to Roger for being brave enough to keep getting back in the passenger seat. I was chased by Nigel for a few laps in the wet and eventually pulled over and slowed to let him lead for a while!!! All good clean fun whoever you came up behind always either let you pass or had a gentlemanly drag up to the next few corners, not racing at all guvner!

Most exciting bit of the day? Braking at the end of the Wheatcroft Straight from around 95mph in the wet with the nearside wheels on the pitlane painted line which resulted in a big twitch and an errrrrrrrr from the both me and Roger as we hurtled into Redgate way off line!

Many thanks again Pete.
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Re: DONINGTON PARK GP Saturday 14th NOV £150

Post by tractorboy » Sun Nov 15, 2015 12:35 pm

ChrisHolmes2014 wrote:
As for the diagnosis of "the fuel pumps knackered" when the engine cut on you exiting Goddards thats invaluable information and I can hopefully borrow your pump ring tool to sort mine out soon. due you your cornering tips I was taking the Melbourne hairpin a lot faster later on and the fuel pump issue appeared again accelerating up toward Goddards.
Have a look at this from about the 4th post in this page:

http://www.rx8ownersclub.co.uk/forum/vi ... 4&p=972607

And http://www.rx8ownersclub.co.uk/forum/vi ... 30&t=55420

Quite a few of us have diagnosed pump failure after a track session, replaced the pump, and then found we still have a problem. I was particularly unlucky as my failed new pump cost me trackday (500 mile round trip, hotel, meal) and a cat!

Not really sure what to advise in your case. What was your fuel level at the time?

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Post by Bulldog » Sun Nov 15, 2015 3:44 pm

Well done to Pete for promoting this and negotiating the price. Circuit days were very 'relaxed' as were the marshals.

I will put a write up in my thread. Thanks for the pictures Rodger very good!

I am going to fit a new pump. I will let you know how it goes. Only had fuel cut at Mallory and Goodwood.

This was the honda that kissed the tyre wall. The clio that went on its roof was a write off.

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Post by JamieM » Sun Nov 15, 2015 6:47 pm

What a fantastic day, lots of good clean fun :) I didn't mind the rain as by the afternoon I had had chance to learn the track, and having not had rain on a track day yet it was a great way to learn the limits of grip of the car and get a good feel for it. Also made me realise how great the TCS/DSC is in the RX8, definitely helped me save myself a couple of times! Particularly the almost spin in front of Nigel.

Managed to catch it though, not the fault of the car/tyres, just me taking a corner a little too quickly. Speaking of which - I also have to hand praise to the Michelin Pilot Super Sports I got put on recently - true to their claims they were excellent in the wet and gave me lots of confidence (perhaps a little too much! :P ). By the end of the day I was even "encouraing" a bit of oversteer on exit of the odd low speed corner for fun "it was an accident honest" ;) The RX-8 & tyres were very controllable and predictable in these conditions.

My parents enjoyed watching and the few rides they had with me, great day all round, thanks all! :thumleft:
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Post by JamieM » Sun Nov 15, 2015 7:13 pm

Indeed, nice to meet you :D

Also many thanks to Roger for some great photos! =D>
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Ok, how the heck do I upload big videos to YouTube or Dropbox?
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Bulldog wrote:Well done to Pete for promoting this and negotiating the price. Circuit days were very 'relaxed' as were the marshals.

I will put a write up in my thread. Thanks for the pictures Rodger very good!

I am going to fit a new pump. I will let you know how it goes. Only had fuel cut at Mallory and Goodwood.

This was the honda that kissed, more like snogged! the tyre wall. The clio that went on its roof was a write off.

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Post by MR_E » Sun Nov 15, 2015 8:15 pm

Really nice to meet everyone yesterday. Thanks for organising it!! Love Donington. Was a bit nervous around lunchtime when the rain came and everyone started crashing but i was pleasantly surprised the 595RSR's held up surprisingly well in the wet, Circuit days were great too. I will definitely be going back to Donington, fancy a few more dry sessions, was epic flying down through craner curves! Heres to the next one :)

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Post by ChrisHolmes » Sun Nov 15, 2015 9:10 pm

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ChrisHolmes2014 wrote:
As for the diagnosis of "the fuel pumps knackered" when the engine cut on you exiting Goddards thats invaluable information and I can hopefully borrow your pump ring tool to sort mine out soon. due you your cornering tips I was taking the Melbourne hairpin a lot faster later on and the fuel pump issue appeared again accelerating up toward Goddards.
Have a look at this from about the 4th post in this page:

http://www.rx8ownersclub.co.uk/forum/vi ... 4&p=972607

And http://www.rx8ownersclub.co.uk/forum/vi ... 30&t=55420

Quite a few of us have diagnosed pump failure after a track session, replaced the pump, and then found we still have a problem. I was particularly unlucky as my failed new pump cost me trackday (500 mile round trip, hotel, meal) and a cat!

Not really sure what to advise in your case. What was your fuel level at the time?

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Fuel at around 1/2 to 3/4 and also got it cutting out exiting Melbourne.

I have read the links and am now wondering if that is the issue!

Many thanks for info Bob
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Post by Smedley » Sun Nov 15, 2015 9:23 pm

More than happy to support the day with some camera work. Always good to get some shots of a good day out. Great to meet a few more members too and although I haven't got an RX8 yet, I sort of feel part of the action already. Managed to learn a bit more about the cars and owners experiences.
Thanks Chris for having me aboard on quite a few laps, although it was a bit worrying to keep seeing all these red flag incidents and hoping we weren't going to be next!! I have to say in the wet the car felt stable and had good grip, impressed.

Looking forward to another meet up sometime. The Cotswold Allsorts have their Midnight Run next weekend.
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tractorboy wrote:
ChrisHolmes2014 wrote:
As for the diagnosis of "the fuel pumps knackered" when the engine cut on you exiting Goddards thats invaluable information and I can hopefully borrow your pump ring tool to sort mine out soon. due you your cornering tips I was taking the Melbourne hairpin a lot faster later on and the fuel pump issue appeared again accelerating up toward Goddards.
Have a look at this from about the 4th post in this page:

http://www.rx8ownersclub.co.uk/forum/vi ... 4&p=972607

And http://www.rx8ownersclub.co.uk/forum/vi ... 30&t=55420

Quite a few of us have diagnosed pump failure after a track session, replaced the pump, and then found we still have a problem. I was particularly unlucky as my failed new pump cost me trackday (500 mile round trip, hotel, meal) and a cat!

Not really sure what to advise in your case. What was your fuel level at the time?

Bob
This makes interesting reading it's seems to be a siphon from the right to left tank issue.

http://www.rx8club.com/series-i-major-h ... es-176491/
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Post by GreySilver Beast » Sun Nov 15, 2015 10:22 pm

@Smedley : Hope you don't mind Roger but I copied the photos you took of my GT :P

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Post by Smedley » Sun Nov 15, 2015 10:38 pm

Feel free anyone. Chris kindly let me use his camera. Must get a digital SLR soon, had fun using it. Of course ragging around in an RX8 of my own would have been great!!
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Smedley wrote:Feel free anyone. Chris kindly let me use his camera. Must get a digital SLR soon, had fun using it. Of course ragging around in an RX8 of my own would have been great!!
Note to Nigel, your rear number plate is not level, lets the image down!
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Smedley wrote:Feel free anyone. Chris kindly let me use his camera. Must get a digital SLR soon, had fun using it. Of course ragging around in an RX8 of my own would have been great!!
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Post by GreySilver Beast » Sun Nov 15, 2015 10:58 pm

I know Chris and am waiting to hear from Tony about doing a few adjustments :P
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Post by tractorboy » Mon Nov 16, 2015 1:35 pm

ChrisHolmes2014 wrote:
This makes interesting reading it's seems to be a siphon from the right to left tank issue.

http://www.rx8club.com/series-i-major-h ... es-176491/
Thanks Chris, that's interesting. Looks like the solution is to fit a modified S2 (R3) pump assembly and the DIY guide is here:

http://www.rx8club.com/series-i-do-your ... -i-230326/

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Post by ChrisHolmes » Mon Nov 16, 2015 1:54 pm

The other sports has of course is to investigate how the fuel transfers to the right side of the tank and if possible restrict that in some way because even if you reduce the transfer rate test would be the same as increasing the pumps siphon rate.
Does any body know what the connection looks like between the right and left sides of the tank?
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Post by tractorboy » Mon Nov 16, 2015 2:03 pm

I think the problem is the "cup" that holds the fuel for the pump to pick up from; it is filled by the venturi syphon (from the right hand tank) and through a hole (from the left hand tank it sits in). On the S2 it is bigger and it may also use the venturi to fill from the right hand tank rather than just filling by gravity.

One thing to note is that this fix appears to work in 100% of cases.

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