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Afternoon all!

Myself and a few mates are participating in the TBR700 banger rally this April/May: https://www.twoballbangerrally.co.uk/th ... rally.html

We have chosen CPSL Mind as the charity to support so any donations/social media shares would be greatly appreciated: https://www.justgiving.com/fundraising/tbr700rally

Onto the car itself ...

I have been looking around for a good month or so now but hadn't found much (£1000 isn't a great deal these days)

That's until I saw the following come up on a search of eBay Sunday evening: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/134429038236
I quickly dropped Nick a message and picked it up yesterday. A hassle free experience which isn't always the case when buying cars.

It needs to in the region of 1500-2000 miles on the same engine which should be interesting 😁 despite the low compression the starts aren't too bad - it is a bit smokey more than anything (guessing the oil control rings/cat have seen better days).

The plans for it are as follows:

- Fit some new seat switches (three drivers of very different heights so it'll be a pain otherwise) - we already have some from from Gordon's donor RX-8.
- Check the fault codes - Nick has let me know that there is an O2 sensor fault so I'll check this out with anything else - he has kindly given me a used spare to put on.
Bleed the brakes - the pedal is a bit long and spongey and whilst doing this I'll get some new rear pads fitted beforehand (MOT advisory).
Fit an R3 starter motor - I have one en route from Nuttys which should hopefully give a little extra leighway for a further drop in compression (current starter cranks at circa 250rpm).
Change the engine oil and filter (goes without saying).
Change the gearbox oil - synchros are ok which is a surprise at the mileage (123k - makes me think it may have been done before) but there is some bearing noise in 2nd, 4th and 6th. I don't expect it to help much but it'll get some metal out of the gearbox at least 😂

Already done:

Coolant light was on - sensor now unplugged and light cleared 😁

I drove the car back from Cookham back to Northampton and it drives well other than the slightly iffy brakes. It has made me realise how much better PZ suspension is over standard suspension though.

I plan to break the car once the rally is done so let me know if there's anything you'd be interested in.

Cheers.
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Hmmm i may be interested in the car when your done. This could be a nice little charity project ourselves to do similar in work for the younger lads. Will run past them and see. Or the motorsport club here may want something to play with
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Thats too good to break surely
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DrewR3 wrote: ↑
Tue Jan 31, 2023 1:40 pm
Hmmm i may be interested in the car when your done. This could be a nice little charity project ourselves to do similar in work for the younger lads. Will run past them and see. Or the motorsport club here may want something to play with
You have first dibs on it - please let me know when you can 👍
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350matt wrote: ↑
Tue Jan 31, 2023 4:49 pm
Thats too good to break surely
It's a tough one - obviously it's a limited edition but it's high mileage for RX-8 standards, the engine is on its last legs, the gearbox isn't great and it has a reasonable amount of rust and lacquer peel on the body. If I sold the interior and mirrors I'd be halfway to getting my money back straightaway 😬
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rx8hunter wrote: ↑
Tue Jan 31, 2023 6:30 pm
DrewR3 wrote: ↑
Tue Jan 31, 2023 1:40 pm
Hmmm i may be interested in the car when your done. This could be a nice little charity project ourselves to do similar in work for the younger lads. Will run past them and see. Or the motorsport club here may want something to play with
You have first dibs on it - please let me know when you can 👍
When will you be looking at it becoming available. Will speak with the guys in work tomorrow.
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I don't suppose anyone has a fairly cheap set of spark plugs they'd be willing to sell? We'd like to take a spare set on the trip.
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Also - let me know if there's anything else you'd think would be worth taking (obviously tools, spare ignition and fluids are already on the list).
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rx8hunter wrote: ↑
Wed Feb 01, 2023 6:17 pm
I don't suppose anyone has a fairly cheap set of spark plugs they'd be willing to sell? We'd like to take a spare set on the trip.
If you just want a back up set (ie used but working) Happy to stick some in the post
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Nickp47 wrote: ↑
Wed Feb 01, 2023 7:57 pm
rx8hunter wrote: ↑
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I don't suppose anyone has a fairly cheap set of spark plugs they'd be willing to sell? We'd like to take a spare set on the trip.
If you just want a back up set (ie used but working) Happy to stick some in the post
That'd be great, cheers Nick! Can you PM me with some payment details?
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No need for payment, just remind me of your address by pm and will send them tomorrow
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rx8hunter wrote: ↑
Wed Feb 01, 2023 6:20 pm
Also - let me know if there's anything else you'd think would be worth taking (obviously tools, spare ignition and fluids are already on the list).
Belts or put new ones on prior to the trip.
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I have a reserve set of new silicone coolant hoses which you can have on loan basis.
Plus a water pump, alternator and a standard set of coils and leads which you can have for free.
Just the packing and logistics to sort for getting them to you.
Oh and a gazillion fuses and relays too!
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Proactive wrote: ↑
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Also - let me know if there's anything else you'd think would be worth taking (obviously tools, spare ignition and fluids are already on the list).
Belts or put new ones on prior to the trip.
I have a couple of spare belts that need to go on my PZ - luckily the ones on the Evolve look pretty good in comparison 😁
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ChrisHolmes wrote: ↑
Wed Feb 01, 2023 11:49 pm
I have a reserve set of new silicone coolant hoses which you can have on loan basis.
Plus a water pump, alternator and a standard set of coils and leads which you can have for free.
Just the packing and logistics to sort for getting them to you.
Oh and a gazillion fuses and relays too!
Is this kindness the epitome of what this clubs about.
Well done Chris 👍
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Has that evolve ever been owned in the NE of England?
Reg looks familiar and test drove one that colour before buying mine.

(test drive didnt go well: back street garage, asked if it was mid life crisis car, then stalled on uphill slip road and wouldn't restart - think it was out of fuel)
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bigpete8 wrote: ↑
Thu Feb 02, 2023 10:36 am
Has that evolve ever been owned in the NE of England?
Reg looks familiar and test drove one that colour before buying mine.

(test drive didnt go well: back street garage, asked if it was mid life crisis car, then stalled on uphill slip road and wouldn't restart - think it was out of fuel)
I don't believe so - I'm only the fourth owner and the paperwork I've had is all from down south. I'll have another check though 😁
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So, took a little drive from Northampton to Olney today and no real issues 😎 hot starts a little long but not too diabolical (yet). Any ideas r.e. poor radio signal? It is absolute ass and just about works on Radio 1.
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Did you have heated rear screen on or anything plugged in Accessory socket?
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Nickp47 wrote: ↑
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Did you have heated rear screen on or anything plugged in Accessory socket?
Nothing in the 12 V socket but I'll check the RHS - not sure if it can be on by default?
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The aerial cable from the head unit has a plug in connection in the passenger footwell found behind the trim panel on the left side.
If you disconnect it there and push in a length of wire you may be able to improve the reception and confirm it’s an aerial issue as opposed to a head unit connection issue.
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Managed to get a couple of bits done today:

- Engine oil and filter (the Laser oil filter tool is a saviour - even with that I had to use a massive bar to get it off 🤦‍♂️)
- Changed the starter motor - turns out it had an R3 one already 😬 got this one cranking around 270rpm by cleaning the 12 V stud on the starter. Guessing it may be worth a new battery too as I tried another one and it was getting up to 275rpm. Assume Varta E23 is the best bet for VFM? I have the N72 on the PZ but they have gone up loads recently.
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Do you fancy doing a deal on the R3 starter or are you keeping it as a spare?
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ChrisHolmes wrote: ↑
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Do you fancy doing a deal on the R3 starter or are you keeping it as a spare?
We will keep it as a spare for the journey - I may do after though (depending if I want it for the PZ).
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We are now there or thereabouts for the journey. Yesterday included:

- Replacing this 'interesting' solution for the washer bottle cap 😂
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- Cleaning the MAF sensor - but it was already pretty clean

- Replace the rear brake pads with some £17.99 Mintex specials - I think the last ones were really used up ...
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(Gaffa tape plaster to cover nasty cut close to the bone 😬)

Bled the brakes as the pedal was really spongey and long - a bit of an improvement but still not great. Hoping they improve a little bit as the rear pads bed in.

Changed the gearbox oil due to bearing noise in 2nd, 4th and 6th. Going by the drain plug I don't think it was a bad idea ...
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Finally took if for a nice little drive - good weather for it yesterday.
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Now onto the final small jobs like sorting stickers, fixing the radio signal issue, getting some seat switches fitted, putting a better battery in and changing the cheapo ignition leads.
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