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Culdranth's galaxy grey, Car is DEAD :'(

Post by Culdranth » Sat Jun 16, 2018 12:03 am

Hey, quick intro for the car,

Randomly came across a 2006 rx8 on ebay only 3 miles away, bidding was about £350 when I seen it.
Having one of them spur off the moments, damn that looks nice. I put a bid on for £417, thinking, I got no chance in winning this then forget about it. (I won a gsxr 400 same way same price.... Never learn)
Was advertised as a non runner, Stood for two years and only 3 exterior pictures. "no rust" Probably setting off all of your alarm bells.
Anyway, I went to pick it up a week later, having a quick look at it I was reasonably happy, their is quite abit of rust though. The previous owner said he replaced the ess and would probably only need new plugs...
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Got it back gave it a quick clean and got to diagnosis.
After reading on this forum and lot of testing I was sent a used oem ess and it fired right up.
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One started I thought it'd treat here too some "new" rims, after winning them found out they where for the later model but with new nuts and spigot they fit, two tyres where nearly new and I put 2 new ones on the front.
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Damn they look nice, 19in and wider, did a quick turn to turn and all clears, just hoping it dont throw a warning light :/

Few other things was new battery, upgraded starter motor, used oem front shocks as old rubbers where dried to a crisp and couldn't find new gaiter and rubber kit.
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Bought the 4 oils for the cat, engine, gearbox, diff and 2t. Not changed these yet as sump is leaking so I've taken that off and it's currently paint drying.
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Think I got the basics, oh, I did melt the rear light so that was replaced also, new flat wipers as others melted to window haha.

So currently the car is sat with no sump or cross member. Still not mot'd.

My plan short term is to clean up the 3 cross members, install sump and oil change. Then see what the mot uncovers.

Mid term is that I want to upgrade to Rotoryrevs mk2 coils as soon as they are out as currently fake coils on and was then changed before I drive it.
Paint calipers black and fit braided lines as want to do a proper paint job and replace the fluid anyway. Do the oil sohn mod. Had a quick glacé where it is on engine today and it didn't look healthy.... I'll try get a pic at a later date.
The "sills"? (running under doors) Look rusty so need to figure out how to uncover and treat/paint.

Long term is to buy a spare engine, rebuild it, and swap it out.

Any other quick and "easy" things to do whilst I'm at it let me know, I only have a limited budget per month so I'll not going to be going out buying racing suspension /exhausts etc. Just getting it running, maintained, looking nice.....for now
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Post by Rotary Potato » Sat Jun 16, 2018 9:32 am

Ryan Rotary?

Too many R's in the RX8 world! :lol:

Good luck with your project. :thumleft:
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Re: Culdranth's galaxy grey, slow progress

Post by PeteH » Sat Jun 16, 2018 10:12 am

Just stick to "Carl". That can't be confusing, can it? :P
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Post by Culdranth » Fri Jun 22, 2018 5:36 am

Little bit of an update, I work silly hours so it's a pain to work on car at times.
Painting done in sump and crossmember and fitted, drained gearbox oil and... That was it.. Grrr, slow week. Couldn't get my hand on a pump so I've "primed" one and should be hear in few hours. So plan today to add engine and gearbox oil and also replace the diff oil. So only brake and water to change later on. Will be calling insurance up and see what the damage will be, I only got 3 months into current policy so bit of a pain :(
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I thought they came out "OK" probably redo next year. But ordering better equipment this week so other bits I plan on painting are better prepared and better paint.

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Re: Culdranth's galaxy grey, slow progress

Post by Culdranth » Thu Jun 28, 2018 4:30 pm

Just got back from mot place, (last one was in 2014)
Passed with no advisorsys woop xD so chuffed, posted picture of exhaust test below (hopefully)
Also, mot place said that my wheels maybe on reverse? Back/front, front/back. So if someone could enlighten me.

Only had a bit of a spin in it, not got to open her up yet. Need to reset the pcm again as idle is abit rough. Keep stalling it :/
It has been starting up from hot now though which is effing awesome. Just need to get a compression test next.
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Post by bigpete8 » Thu Jun 28, 2018 4:52 pm

Are the tyres A-Symmetrical and have a direction of rotation marked on them?
(That could mean they are on the wrong side of the car)
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Post by Rotary Potato » Thu Jun 28, 2018 5:08 pm

It looks like the wheels are different widths.

Generally speaking people put the wider wheels on the back.

It looks like your fronts have more dish than the rears ... but it could be just the perspective in the photos.
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Post by Culdranth » Thu Jun 28, 2018 5:41 pm

The rotation is correct. Talking bout the front maybe on the back.
Currently the front has a big dish compared to the rear.

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Re: Culdranth's galaxy grey, slow progress

Post by PeteH » Thu Jun 28, 2018 8:16 pm

Yep. They look wrong. Most people would have the wider / larger stagger on the rear.

For info, the 8 is generally happier with the same wheels and tyres on all four corners. Different sizes can lead to the electronic stability systems getting annoyed.

Also, your front ride height looks quite high compared to the rear. I wonder what springs you have?
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Post by warpc0il » Thu Jun 28, 2018 8:31 pm

The ride height could be the springs or just that old chestnut of the suspension bolts being tightened with weight off the wheels, so the bushes act as rubber torsion springs.

What are those tyre sizes?
Any more than 1% difference in rolling diameter and either the TCS/DSC will cut engine power and/or the ABS will refuse to work properly.
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Re: Culdranth's galaxy grey, slow progress

Post by Culdranth » Fri Jun 29, 2018 7:39 pm

warpc0il wrote:
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The ride height could be the springs or just that old chestnut of the suspension bolts being tightened with weight off the wheels, so the bushes act as rubber torsion springs.

What are those tyre sizes?
Any more than 1% difference in rolling diameter and either the TCS/DSC will cut engine power and/or the ABS will refuse to work properly.
hmm, I did change the front suspension before i got these wheels, thought it looked bit high.
current on the front (dished rims) tyres are 255/35R19 Falken FK510 96Y XL - Bought the brand new as the once on rim at time where shagggeedd
current on the back (more flush rims) tyres are 235/35ZR19 wanli? s-1088 - where on rims when bought them

This is first time ive actually looked at the old tyres.... so defeinatly need swapping as front is the wider one atm...... Aslo, just googled that wanli tyre and eeek..... they need changing.. not got a spare £250 atm though with buying sohn kit and getting the thing on the road in a month after buying her.

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Post by Culdranth » Fri Jun 29, 2018 7:42 pm

alos regarding the TCS/DSC the light hasn't come up yet and i've done 35 miles so far, still getting used to driving

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Post by Culdranth » Fri Jun 29, 2018 7:57 pm

Culdranth wrote:
Fri Jun 29, 2018 7:39 pm
warpc0il wrote:
Thu Jun 28, 2018 8:31 pm
The ride height could be the springs or just that old chestnut of the suspension bolts being tightened with weight off the wheels, so the bushes act as rubber torsion springs.

What are those tyre sizes?
Any more than 1% difference in rolling diameter and either the TCS/DSC will cut engine power and/or the ABS will refuse to work properly.
hmm, I did change the front suspension before i got these wheels, thought it looked bit high.
current on the front (dished rims) tyres are 255/35R19 Falken FK510 96Y XL - Bought the brand new as the once on rim at time where shagggeedd
current on the back (more flush rims) tyres are 235/35ZR19 wanli? s-1088 - where on rims when bought them

This is first time ive actually looked at the old tyres.... so defeinatly need swapping as front is the wider one atm...... Aslo, just googled that wanli tyre and eeek..... they need changing.. not got a spare £250 atm though with just bought half sohn kit RRP developed and need to buy the adaptor still, also getting the thing on the road in a month after buying her.

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Re: Culdranth's galaxy grey, slow progress

Post by PeteH » Sat Jun 30, 2018 12:24 am

Yikes! I actually wouldn't want to drive your car in its current state. You should swap front to back as soon as possible. And you should get rid of the ditch finders as soon as possible.
When you start to push the car the electronics will definitely object to that size difference. If you really want to keep the staggered wheels then I would suggest fitting 225/40x19 tyres instead of the 235/35. That should avoid DSC and TC problems.
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Post by Culdranth » Sun Jul 01, 2018 7:23 pm

Swapped the rims over yesterday, done about 20 miles in it and all seems good still, no lights on dash. Pulls well, breaks well

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Post by warpc0il » Sun Jul 01, 2018 9:51 pm

I assume you've not driven in the wet yet..... ;)
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Post by Culdranth » Sun Jul 01, 2018 10:19 pm

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I assume you've not driven in the wet yet..... ;)
In the middle of a heatwave, not yet. I thought it would have more power though. But thinking that I've been spoilt by motorbikes. I will be changing the tyres but not till get sohn and rrp coils first. Need to find time for compression test also. It's booked in a mazda on Thursday.

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Post by warpc0il » Sun Jul 01, 2018 10:23 pm

The first stage of the DSC/TCS engaging is to retard the ignition to reduce power, before it overrides the input from the fly-by-wire throttle
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Post by PeteH » Sun Jul 01, 2018 11:19 pm

I was thinking the same. It may be the traction control that is cutting the power. If you fit the right tyres you might magically discover a significant power boost. :thumleft:
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Post by Culdranth » Mon Jul 02, 2018 1:18 am

Hmm, interesting. It does pull, especially after 5k and it'll beep till read line. 80mph in 3rd just before shifting sound normal? I'll plug obd scanner on way home in morning to see if that shows anything.
Hoping they do the same tyre as back for the front in sizes you stated.
Also, I am still running ebay coils till rrp gets his mk2 released :/
Have been able to start her up after stalling (multiple times) so hot start issue from first test seems to have gone.

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Post by Rotary Potato » Mon Jul 02, 2018 7:51 am

I shift from 3rd to 4th at about 93-94mph.

It may just be that you're not used to a rotary.

Also, for a hot start test you need to leave it 5 mins before trying to restart.
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Post by Rotary Potato » Mon Jul 02, 2018 11:36 am

Opps .... sorry. Just seen you have a 192. Ignore my comment on shift speeds.

I've never driven a 192, so no idea if 80mph sounds right.
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Post by Shagrington » Mon Jul 02, 2018 4:34 pm

A 192 will show about 89mph at the limiter between 3rd and 4th ... or mine used to before my rev limit was raised with a mini re-map ... the beep starts where it used to but goes on for ever now and with so much warning I haven't hit the limiter in ages :twisted:
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Re: Culdranth's galaxy grey, slow progress

Post by Culdranth » Sat Aug 25, 2018 12:59 pm

Lil bit of progress on the car, since it's my daily commuter and long hours I don't have much time.

Bought the cheap toyo sports back box and like pipe and fitted it early hours in Wednesday morning after a 12 hour shift.... Tired but was impatient haha. Took 2 hours which wasn't too bad I thought, getting the rubbers off was the pain. Still need to dremel the shrouds to fit but want to take time on that.
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Not happy with the rear subframe on the car looking at that..... Need to think of the best way to tackle it as I'm only working in a car park.
Also got the sohn kit from. RRP to fit soon also.

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Post by Culdranth » Wed Sep 26, 2018 5:16 pm

Jesus, it's been a month since I last got my hands dirty :/
Been having few things delivered and started to work on car today but only had limited time.

Did my first "long" run at weekend 250 mile in a day, damn it was comfy, drove nice on motorway. Gave it some stick on way home on b roads and was having misfires though.

Today got round to fitting the toyo hi flo cat mid pipe. Sounds so nice at idle. Not had chance to go out in it yet though. Fitted rrp's duel tank and will attempt the adapter tomorrow. And rolled 1 wheel arch as I have s3 rims on my s1.
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So tomorrow if I recover from tonight's concert gonna install cohn kit, role other arch, move licence plate, restore headlights.
Also noticed clean oil all down car when was fitting exhaust so I think an oil line is going. So need to dismantle front to see

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