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Re: Wayne's Greddy Turbo winter project .

Post by boosted » Wed Dec 06, 2017 7:12 pm

Yes make a new hose up no connector proper flanged joints that can take the pressure....so 1 option...take what youve got to Merlin motorsport at Combe...dump it all on counter and tell them what you want.
Option 2 if your 100% certain..ring em up tell you want oil braided hose for turbo feed ..1 end xxxxmale other end xxxxfemale etc. And wait for it in the post...there very helpful in there..ive bought fittings on ebay and made mistakes...

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Re: Wayne's Greddy Turbo winter project .

Post by Essex2Visuvesi » Wed Dec 06, 2017 7:33 pm

mrspiller wrote:
Wed Dec 06, 2017 6:51 pm
Essex2Visuvesi wrote:Here you go
Exactly what you need :)
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Rover-K-Seri ... XQs6FROfCp

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Flowfit-METR ... 4zKO87eXPg

personally I would go with option 2 after confirming with the seller the thread pitch is correct
Thanks buddy ( sorry I don’t know your name ) I will look into these , the last thing I want to be doing is continually ordering or receiving the wrong product , I’ll have a good look shortly when I go in . Out of curiosity, how long have you had the turbo on yours ?


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The turbo is on the Toyota MR-S :oops:
In my defence I do have a N/A FC RX7 as well!
Turbo is an IHI custom made for a Japanese company called Power Enterprise who made a "Kit" for the MR-S. I had issues Finding the fittings for the turbo water lines, so I had some custom made. In you case it looks like you will be able to find what you need off the shelf.
Might I suggest that you go with the adaptor fitting during your initial test fitting and running then, once everything is up and running properly start looking at custom made hoses. Nothing worse than having stuff custom made and then finding there's an issue elsewhere and said part is no longer suitable for purpose.
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Wayne's Greddy Turbo winter project .

Post by mrspiller » Wed Dec 06, 2017 9:43 pm

Essex2Visuvesi wrote:
mrspiller wrote:
Wed Dec 06, 2017 6:51 pm
Essex2Visuvesi wrote:Here you go
Exactly what you need
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Rover-K-Seri ... XQs6FROfCp

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Flowfit-METR ... 4zKO87eXPg

personally I would go with option 2 after confirming with the seller the thread pitch is correct
Thanks buddy ( sorry I don’t know your name ) I will look into these , the last thing I want to be doing is continually ordering or receiving the wrong product , I’ll have a good look shortly when I go in . Out of curiosity, how long have you had the turbo on yours ?


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The turbo is on the Toyota MR-S
In my defence I do have a N/A FC RX7 as well!
Turbo is an IHI custom made for a Japanese company called Power Enterprise who made a "Kit" for the MR-S. I had issues Finding the fittings for the turbo water lines, so I had some custom made. In you case it looks like you will be able to find what you need off the shelf.
Might I suggest that you go with the adaptor fitting during your initial test fitting and running then, once everything is up and running properly start looking at custom made hoses. Nothing worse than having stuff custom made and then finding there's an issue elsewhere and said part is no longer suitable for purpose.
Sounds like a plan thanks Gary


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Re: Wayne's Greddy Turbo winter project .

Post by Essex2Visuvesi » Wed Dec 06, 2017 10:50 pm

No problem.... I'm speaking from experience. Spent far too much on unnecessary parts during the MR-S build
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Re: Wayne's Greddy Turbo winter project .

Post by mrspiller » Thu Dec 07, 2017 2:26 pm

Essex2Visuvesi wrote:
mrspiller wrote:
Wed Dec 06, 2017 6:51 pm
Essex2Visuvesi wrote:Here you go
Exactly what you need :)
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Rover-K-Seri ... XQs6FROfCp

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Flowfit-METR ... 4zKO87eXPg

personally I would go with option 2 after confirming with the seller the thread pitch is correct
Thanks buddy ( sorry I don’t know your name ) I will look into these , the last thing I want to be doing is continually ordering or receiving the wrong product , I’ll have a good look shortly when I go in . Out of curiosity, how long have you had the turbo on yours ?


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Gary :)

The turbo is on the Toyota MR-S :oops:
In my defence I do have a N/A FC RX7 as well!
Turbo is an IHI custom made for a Japanese company called Power Enterprise who made a "Kit" for the MR-S. I had issues Finding the fittings for the turbo water lines, so I had some custom made. In you case it looks like you will be able to find what you need off the shelf.
Might I suggest that you go with the adaptor fitting during your initial test fitting and running then, once everything is up and running properly start looking at custom made hoses. Nothing worse than having stuff custom made and then finding there's an issue elsewhere and said part is no longer suitable for purpose.
Next question Gary , or anyone else , where in the uk can I find a 38 mm and 53 mm bore 2 hole gasket for the turbo unit ......


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Re: Wayne's Greddy Turbo winter project .

Post by PeteH » Thu Dec 07, 2017 2:37 pm

Making gaskets is easy. You can buy metal exhaust gasket material from ebay, and cutting it out is simple (lots of YouTube videos will show you neat time saving tips). Or even easier would be to have a chat to the many bespoke exhaust companies. They will knock you one up for a few quid.
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Re: Wayne's Greddy Turbo winter project .

Post by mrspiller » Thu Dec 07, 2017 3:25 pm

PeteH wrote:Making gaskets is easy. You can buy metal exhaust gasket material from ebay, and cutting it out is simple (lots of YouTube videos will show you neat time saving tips). Or even easier would be to have a chat to the many bespoke exhaust companies. They will knock you one up for a few quid.
Thanks pete , I had no idea you could make your own , live and learn . I have just ordered some . Cheers


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Re: Wayne's Greddy Turbo winter project .

Post by mrspiller » Thu Dec 07, 2017 6:11 pm

Sh*t - bugger - balls - arghhhhhhhh not a good evening - whilst removing the front crossmember the one 17 mm bolt which screws into the captive nut inside the front sub frame has decided to break off from its weld inside so Is just spinning . I assume this is a major part for the strength of the chassis ? .
Has anyone had experience in getting the bolt out without removing the whole subframe - here is the offending bitch Imagei shall post this on the spin doctors too for any others advice .
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Re: Wayne's Greddy Turbo winter project .

Post by boosted » Thu Dec 07, 2017 7:27 pm

Cut it off..drop a bolt a bolt down from top.

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Post by mrspiller » Thu Dec 07, 2017 7:44 pm

boosted wrote:Cut it off..drop a bolt a bolt down from top.

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Can’t do that boss as it’s covered on the top , it has loosened a bit so can cut it off . I just hope that if I remove the bottom arm that we can get the top of a welder in to hold the new one , just gutted I’ll have to get it re aligned .
Good shout about merlin , they done it there and then , thanks
It’s funny I just thought it was an advertising board on the unit , not mowing they are based there


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Post by boosted » Thu Dec 07, 2017 7:57 pm

Not the cheapest Merlin...but oh my..they got all the kit on site and voila head scrathing gone...let me take 3 catch tanks to try to position on the fd as well...just really helpful.
Cut the head off...do what you need todo...worry later?

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Post by boosted » Thu Dec 07, 2017 8:31 pm

Ha ha just re read that you thought the Merlin sign was advertising banner...lol pmsl..

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Post by mrspiller » Thu Dec 07, 2017 8:58 pm

boosted wrote:Not the cheapest Merlin...but oh my..they got all the kit on site and voila head scrathing gone...let me take 3 catch tanks to try to position on the fd as well...just really helpful.
Cut the head off...do what you need todo...worry later?

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That’s the problem , the worry later will Be next week , or even the weekend . I am half tempted to drop the lot , fit the turbo gizmo and offer it back up . Do you know anywhere that can do 38 And 53 mm W haunts gaskets ?


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Post by boosted » Thu Dec 07, 2017 8:59 pm

No soz mate.

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Post by boosted » Thu Dec 07, 2017 9:03 pm

Ive made gaskets myself in the past ..we got plenty of steam gasket at work...8 bar aint gonna blow that..

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Post by mrspiller » Thu Dec 07, 2017 9:16 pm

boosted wrote:Ive made gaskets myself in the past ..we got plenty of steam gasket at work...8 bar aint gonna blow that..

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If you can wait til tuesday..ill send you some...im on 4 days off woohoo.

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boosted wrote:If you can wait til tuesday..ill send you some...im on 4 days off woohoo.

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Are they easy to make well Jon ? Or am I safer doing them out of cardboard and letting you do the honours ?


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Post by ChrisHolmes » Sun Dec 10, 2017 3:30 pm

Mark the gasket shape on two bits of spare ply or similar wood which I know you will have loads of and sandwich the gasket material between them clamping firmly but not tight enough to compress the gasket at all.
Then drill the bolt holes and cut out the shape with a jigsaw metal cutting blade, sandwich two layers of material and get two gaskets for one session.
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Post by mrspiller » Sun Dec 10, 2017 3:49 pm

ChrisHolmes wrote:Mark the gasket shape on two bits of spare ply or similar wood which I know you will have loads of and sandwich the gasket material between them clamping firmly but not tight enough to compress the gasket at all.
Then drill the bolt holes and cut out the shape with a jigsaw metal cutting blade, sandwich two layers of material and get two gaskets for one session.
Cheers Chris , I’ll have a bash at that if Jon doesn’t bite
Out of curiosity , what thickness ply would you use


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Post by boosted » Sun Dec 10, 2017 3:52 pm

Bit difficult to type with welding gauntlets on..ill be back later. Cracking on putting an arch on my eunos.

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1/4" last time I used the technique!!
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Post by mrspiller » Sun Dec 10, 2017 4:57 pm

ChrisHolmes wrote:1/4" last time I used the technique!!
I’ll have a bash at this tomorrow , I have ordered some gasket sheet as pete advised , I’m interested to know if the stuff Jon uses at work is better .......


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Ive pm,d you...

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Re: Wayne's Greddy Turbo winter project .

Post by mrspiller » Mon Dec 11, 2017 6:54 pm

So , I’m hoping someone can give a bit of information on the water cooling again . Having had a good read on the turbo do’s and don’ts .
1- if I plumb through the throttle body water lines as advised , is this water supply not subject to flow regardless of thermostat ???
2- pete H asked somewhere , maybe in another thread if I had considered an electric water pump , it says in the literature that providing the water intake is lower than water output that it will avoid the heat soak after the engine is turned off which apparently Makes thermal syphoning which continues to keep the water flowing after the engine is turned off . Would an electric water pump be a better option to rid the heat than relying on the latter ?
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